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    Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

    We are currently using emediasales softgoods for our digital downloads. We are a software company that also sells large libraries of 3d-content. Typically our zipped downloads are between 1 and 1.5 GB. We contracted emedia sales to add a split chunking (using Linux split) mechanism that feeds downloads to customers in small pieces to prevent our server from getting overloaded.

    Will the new built-in Digital Downloads allow for split archives, or does it have another method for dealing with very large download files?

    I'd appreciate any insight you could offer
    Thanks

    #2
    Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

    I think I'm familiar with your site if I remember correctly. The new digital download feature actually has something that may be very useful to you; it supports downloads of files with the storage being on Amazon S3. This would let you keep all the files off your web server so you're not paying for disk space / backups at normal 'hosting' rates and can stash them on S3 instead.

    In any case, if the files are hosted locally, Merchant itself is not handling the serving of the file, the local web server is, so you won't need to worry about a php timeout or an Empresa timeout, only the web server itself must be configured with a long enough timeout to allow the entire file to be served, which you'd have needed regardless. That would likely still require a dedicated server due to the huge timeout you'd need, but you've got more flexibility on the storage side. The module supports the same max # of downloads and link expiration for the download that the eMedia mod does, whether the file is on local storage or S3.

    Here are the docs: http://docs.miva.com/v1.0/docs/digital-downloads
    David Hubbard
    CIO
    Miva
    [email protected]
    http://www.miva.com

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      #3
      Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

      Thanks for the reply, we are the site you remember.
      Is there a beta version that we could try out before it is released?
      Can you remind me of what webserver settings we need to change to avoid the timeouts?
      Last edited by emdub; 12-08-15, 03:46 PM.

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        #4
        Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

        There won't be a beta of 9.5, but we are still hoping to release it this month.
        Thanks,

        Rick Wilson
        CEO
        Miva, Inc.
        [email protected]
        https://www.miva.com

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          #5
          Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

          You might also remember we use Variant products/Inventory Variants extensively with our downloads. One parent product will have many Variant products to give our customers multiple download links. We do this with Inventory Kits when there are different options for the download (different versions of software, or different format of 3d models), and with Default Variants. Will this functionality be in Miva's digital downloads? I remember it was not built into the emediasales module, and we had to contract them to add it.

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            #6
            Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

            Yes our module supports this.
            Thanks,

            Rick Wilson
            CEO
            Miva, Inc.
            [email protected]
            https://www.miva.com

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              #7
              Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

              I am very glad that this module has gone live. We have all our sound files we sell on a dedicated server ( not the Miva server ). Is their a way to use those for our sales? I thinks its a lot cheaper than Amazon. We pay $49 a month for 250 gigs of storage and no bandwidth costs with 1 & 1.
              http://www.invinciblemusic.com

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                #8
                Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

                Not currently. The files either need to be local on your miva server or uploaded via Amazon S3 although we have plans to add additional CDNs in the future and this could include something like a subdomain where you can point the subdomain to your own non-miva server.
                Brennan Heyde
                VP Product
                Miva, Inc.
                [email protected]
                https://www.miva.com

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                  #9
                  Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

                  We use a completely different Domain name for our file server which is Invinciblemedia.com. Our MIVA Domain is under Invinciblemusic.com. Could that work in the future? Do you have any time estimate which would be helpful to us.
                  http://www.invinciblemusic.com

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                    #10
                    Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

                    We may support something like that in the future (assuming it is possible)

                    However I would look into Amazon s3 for the time being. They have a free tier and their pricing for storage and bandwidth is very good.
                    Brennan Heyde
                    VP Product
                    Miva, Inc.
                    [email protected]
                    https://www.miva.com

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                      #11
                      Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

                      We have about 60 gigs of music stored and about 4 gigs of bandwidth a month. I wonder how much that would cost about. This page is pretty confusing to me: https://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/
                      http://www.invinciblemusic.com

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                        #12
                        Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

                        I agree with you their pricing is really confusing. I just used their pricing estimator tool to generate these estimates:


                        Storage Bandwidth Monthly Cost
                        60Gb 4Gb $1.69
                        10Gb 100Gb $8.20
                        50Gb 300Gb $27.40
                        100Gb 500Gb $46.90
                        500Gb 1000Gb $103.90
                        http://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html (Click on Amazon S3 tab on the left)

                        In their pricing bandwidth is more expensive than disk space, so the more times your products are downloaded, the more expensive it will be.
                        Last edited by Brennan; 12-30-15, 08:44 AM.
                        Brennan Heyde
                        VP Product
                        Miva, Inc.
                        [email protected]
                        https://www.miva.com

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                          #13
                          Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

                          These prices seem really low. I wonder if they have an additional monthly fee as well. I just checked out that online calculator and it has so many options that make no sense to me! What I am thinking of doing is starting with a couple of CD download titles and trying it out. Oh the pain of all this change. Thanks MIVA for finally getting download sales build in.
                          Last edited by InvincibleRecordings; 12-30-15, 09:11 AM.
                          http://www.invinciblemusic.com

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                            #14
                            Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

                            I don't think anyone can beat AWS on storage/download pricing. At least, not in a practical sense.
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                              #15
                              Re: Miva 9.5 Digital Downloads

                              Originally posted by InvincibleRecordings View Post
                              These prices seem really low. I wonder if they have an additional monthly fee as well. I just checked out that online calculator and it has so many options that make no sense to me! What I am thinking of doing is starting with a couple of CD download titles and trying it out. Oh the pain of all this change. Thanks MIVA for finally getting download sales build in.
                              There's a huge number of options. Basically it breaks down like this for your use case:

                              Amazon S3 (storage services)

                              Standard storage (you don't want infrequent access or reduced redundancy as the tradeoffs aren't worth it given the price for the amount of storage you're needing; bandwidth is the only component that matters in your case)

                              Set the standard storage to 60 GB

                              PUT requests occur when you upload content to Amazon, so you would not use many of those during a given month; I'll just set it to 1000 for arguments sake

                              GET requests occur when files are served outbound, so you downloading, you making a sale and a client downloads, etc. I'll set this to 1000 to give you an estimate of what 1000 downloads per month would look like.

                              Data transfer, I'll just pick 500 GB/month.

                              This produces a bill of $45.34/mo. If your data transfer doubles to 1 TB/mo, it's $92/mo. If you change the PUT and GET requests to 10,000 instead of 1,000, it only changes the bill by 50 cents. If you change the storage to 600 GB (ten times more), it only changes the bill by $10, so data transfer out is the only thing to worry about. If your 1&1 server has some type of webstats or network stats, it should let you determine what a typical month looks like from a data transfer perspective.
                              David Hubbard
                              CIO
                              Miva
                              [email protected]
                              http://www.miva.com

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