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    How do you, I don't know, unencrypt customer's passwords? I have a customer that is considering moving to Miva, but they don't want to force all their customers to re-create accounts. My client wants to set-up accounts for their customers.
    Thanks!
    Cameron
    Trent Studios, LLC
    Graphic Design, Website Design
    TrentStudios.com
    (970) 568-8652

    #2
    In Miva you can't un-encrypt customer passwords. What system are they coming from? If that system can export the passwords unencrypted (not very likely) you can then import them into Miva and We'll re-encrypt.

    The other way to solve this import all customer accounts with new unique passwords then trigger the forgot password for each customer. They'll get an email with a link to reset their password. Not ideal but there is not really a way around it.

    Brennan Heyde
    VP Product
    Miva, Inc.
    [email protected]
    https://www.miva.com

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      #3
      It would depend on the platform they're moving from as to whether it is even possible. In later versions of our software, it is no longer possible due to the use of very strong encryption, there's a password reset procedure instead. Most platforms have moved to something similar due to identity theft, etc. resulting from people who use the same password for everything.
      David Hubbard
      CIO
      Miva
      [email protected]
      http://www.miva.com

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        #4
        Just out of curiosity, suppose the other cart uses the same encryption system as MM. Would it be possible to import the encrypted passwordsinto the new store? I think there are some industry standards for the type of encryption used for passwords, so this user might get lucky with this.

        Thanks --
        Kent Multer
        Magic Metal Productions
        http://TheMagicM.com
        * Web developer/designer
        * E-commerce and Miva
        * Author, The Official Miva Web Scripting Book -- available on-line:
        http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/IS...icmetalproducA

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          #5
          It's fairly unlikely that any other cart happened to arrive at the same method of encryption for customer passwords that we currently use, as it's a combination of pbkdf/sha2 used in a particular manner, with there being many different ways to use even the same protocols. However, if a different shopping cart were using older SHA1 hashes for customer passwords, Merchant will still allow those and convert them, so there's a remote chance it would be possible to move them if the other cart were using something that was more common several years ago.
          David Hubbard
          CIO
          Miva
          [email protected]
          http://www.miva.com

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            #6
            Yes, I figured it was a long shot. But it's worth a look if it will keep thousands of customers from having to re-enter their passwords.
            Kent Multer
            Magic Metal Productions
            http://TheMagicM.com
            * Web developer/designer
            * E-commerce and Miva
            * Author, The Official Miva Web Scripting Book -- available on-line:
            http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/IS...icmetalproducA

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              #7
              The best analogy I've read:

              It's like unmixing paint and guessing the two original colors.
              http://www.alphabetsigns.com/

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                #8
                Yeah, much more eloquent than "turning sausage back into a pig." :^)
                Kent Multer
                Magic Metal Productions
                http://TheMagicM.com
                * Web developer/designer
                * E-commerce and Miva
                * Author, The Official Miva Web Scripting Book -- available on-line:
                http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/IS...icmetalproducA

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