Paypal Module

Paypal Module



A ticket has been entered. Thanks Bret.
I am curious if we should post the findings on this post so others can read
them.

Thanks again to everyone who responded. Sounds like we are getting closer.


Quoting "Sales (VikingCoders)" <[email protected]>:

> Webmaster,
>
> I'm not seeing anything in our help desk from you but the problem is
> almost invariably an incorrect installation, or, much less frequently,
> some strange server configuration.
>
> Please go ahead and open a ticket so that we can take a look at the problem.
>
> <A HREF ="http://www.vikingcoders.com/helpdesk/">http://www.vikingcoders.com/helpdesk/</A>
>
> Regards,
> Bret.
> http://vikingcoders.com
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> > There's a problem with the module if you ask me. I have had this problem
> > forever with the viking module. I have reinstalled it upside down and
> sideways
> > and still get orders with no invoices.
> >
> > I think it needs to be redesigned.
> > I don't get many paypal orders but all of mine show up this way still
> today. If
> > I can't get it to work I am going to drop mine.
> > I have provide this list in the past with exact details to what I have done
> and
> > how I have installed this module and still get the good ol "you must have
> not
> > installed it correctly" line.
> >
> > I gave up.
> >
> >
> > Quoting Remik - dotCOM designers <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: <[email protected]>
> >>Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:47 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [mrc] Paypal Module
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Ohh boy, I just installed that new paypal module from Viking coders
> >>>and in the last hour have receive 3 paypal orders and non of which
> >>>had the order info. It was only happening once every 10 orders
> >>>with the old paypal module...ooch!
> >>
> >>It should virtually never happen with the Viking Coders' module. Check the
> >>documentation - you must have not installed it correctly.
> >>
> >>Remik Kolodziej
> >>Miva Premier Hosting Partner
> >><A HREF ="http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239">http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239</A>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

Paypal Module



Webmaster,

I'm not seeing anything in our help desk from you but the problem is
almost invariably an incorrect installation, or, much less frequently,
some strange server configuration.

Please go ahead and open a ticket so that we can take a look at the problem.

<A HREF ="http://www.vikingcoders.com/helpdesk/">http://www.vikingcoders.com/helpdesk/</A>

Regards,
Bret.
http://vikingcoders.com

[email protected] wrote:
> There's a problem with the module if you ask me. I have had this problem
> forever with the viking module. I have reinstalled it upside down and sideways
> and still get orders with no invoices.
>
> I think it needs to be redesigned.
> I don't get many paypal orders but all of mine show up this way still today. If
> I can't get it to work I am going to drop mine.
> I have provide this list in the past with exact details to what I have done and
> how I have installed this module and still get the good ol "you must have not
> installed it correctly" line.
>
> I gave up.
>
>
> Quoting Remik - dotCOM designers <[email protected]>:
>
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:47 PM
>>Subject: Re: [mrc] Paypal Module
>>
>>
>>
>>>Ohh boy, I just installed that new paypal module from Viking coders
>>>and in the last hour have receive 3 paypal orders and non of which
>>>had the order info. It was only happening once every 10 orders
>>>with the old paypal module...ooch!
>>
>>It should virtually never happen with the Viking Coders' module. Check the
>>documentation - you must have not installed it correctly.
>>
>>Remik Kolodziej
>>Miva Premier Hosting Partner
>><A HREF ="http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239">http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239</A>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Paypal Module



Have you even contacted viking before?

Jason


> Thanks Bill. However there is no reference to this on the install docs.
> And since others on this list are curious about similar information I
> would hope
> Viking Coders responds to these posts.
>
> If not I will buy yours. Can you provide a link to your paypal module?
> And just to confirm your install doc's contain this information?
>
> I appreciate your replies.
>
>
> Quoting William Weiland <[email protected]>:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> > I just pulled it up and I have nothing listed:
>> > Instant Payment Notification (IPN) Off
>> > Instant Payment Notification (IPN) URL: None
>> >
>> > What should be there?
>>
>> That is probably the problem. Refer to your install doc. Or contact
>> viking coders. The IPN url for their module is different from the IPN
>> for my module or even the Miva Corp supplied module.
>>
>> --
>> Bill Weiland A2Z Emporium Plus <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc">http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc</A>
>> Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, PayPal, Froogle/Yahoo feeds
>> Rate This, Gift/Wish List, Wait List Mgr, EZ Batch, Shipping & more
>> Online Documentation <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs">http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs</A>
>> Question <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS">http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS</A>
>> |
>>

Paypal Module



[email protected] wrote:
> Thanks Bill. However there is no reference to this on the install docs.
> And since others on this list are curious about similar information I would hope
> Viking Coders responds to these posts.

It is possible that their module is passing the IPN url as a hidden
input. You need to get with them on the requirements.

> If not I will buy yours.

No need to. You just need to get the one working that you already have.

> Can you provide a link to your paypal module?
> And just to confirm your install doc's contain this information?

For the IPN stuff, I put that in the admin screen of the module. I give
store owners two options. They can enter the IPN url at paypal.com or
they can leave it blank and let the module pass the IPN to paypal.com.
The more secure way is to enter the IPN at paypal.com because I also
include a code in that url so that if the code does not match, the order
will not post to Merchant. While there is a code passed with the other
option, it is less secure. Not that it is a big deal, since you are
always supposed to match orders to payments when using off site
processors like paypal, etc. But some people get lazy and hackers like
to mess with you.

--
Bill Weiland A2Z Emporium Plus <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc ">http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc </A>
Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, PayPal, Froogle/Yahoo feeds
Rate This, Gift/Wish List, Wait List Mgr, EZ Batch, Shipping & more
Online Documentation <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs">http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs</A>
Question <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS ">http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodu...vc?Screen=SPTS </A>
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Paypal Module



Thanks Bill. However there is no reference to this on the install docs.
And since others on this list are curious about similar information I would hope
Viking Coders responds to these posts.

If not I will buy yours. Can you provide a link to your paypal module?
And just to confirm your install doc's contain this information?

I appreciate your replies.


Quoting William Weiland <[email protected]>:

> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > I just pulled it up and I have nothing listed:
> > Instant Payment Notification (IPN) Off
> > Instant Payment Notification (IPN) URL: None
> >
> > What should be there?
>
> That is probably the problem. Refer to your install doc. Or contact
> viking coders. The IPN url for their module is different from the IPN
> for my module or even the Miva Corp supplied module.
>
> --
> Bill Weiland A2Z Emporium Plus <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc">http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc</A>
> Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, PayPal, Froogle/Yahoo feeds
> Rate This, Gift/Wish List, Wait List Mgr, EZ Batch, Shipping & more
> Online Documentation <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs">http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs</A>
> Question <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS">http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS</A>
> |
>

Paypal Module



[email protected] wrote:
>
> I just pulled it up and I have nothing listed:
> Instant Payment Notification (IPN) Off
> Instant Payment Notification (IPN) URL: None
>
> What should be there?

That is probably the problem. Refer to your install doc. Or contact
viking coders. The IPN url for their module is different from the IPN
for my module or even the Miva Corp supplied module.

--
Bill Weiland A2Z Emporium Plus <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc ">http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc </A>
Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, PayPal, Froogle/Yahoo feeds
Rate This, Gift/Wish List, Wait List Mgr, EZ Batch, Shipping & more
Online Documentation <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs">http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs</A>
Question <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS ">http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodu...vc?Screen=SPTS </A>
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I just pulled it up and I have nothing listed:
Instant Payment Notification (IPN) Off
Instant Payment Notification (IPN) URL: None

What should be there?


Quoting William Weiland <[email protected]>:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > I understand.
> > Where in Paypal is this IPN information located? I don't recall seeing
> that in
> > the module documentation.
>
> Log into your paypal.com account. Click the tab for Profile. Then
> click for the IPN preference. What is in the IPN URL? I don't know
> where viking includes that information in their instructions but I am
> sure it is there.
>
> > I hear what you are saying. Does Paypal get involved in the development of
> > these 3rd party modules and assist with their creation etc..?
> > Just curious how that process worked.
>
> Paypal.com is not involved, other than publishing the interface code
> that is needed. That is pretty much how 3rd party software is
> developed. The API is published and developers follow the required
> steps to get their program to do what is needed to interface with the
> parent program. As for my paypal module, I developed it way back with
> Miva Merchant 1.x when paypal.com never even knew what Miva Merchant
> was. Miva Corp finally came out with their version of a paypal module
> with Merchant 4.14. It is not as mature, feature rich and debugged as
> thoroughly as one which has been around since the 2nd millennium.
>
> --
> Bill Weiland A2Z Emporium Plus <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc">http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc</A>
> Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, PayPal, Froogle/Yahoo feeds
> Rate This, Gift/Wish List, Wait List Mgr, EZ Batch, Shipping & more
> Online Documentation <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs">http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs</A>
> Question <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS">http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS</A>
> |
>

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[email protected] wrote:
> I understand.
> Where in Paypal is this IPN information located? I don't recall seeing that in
> the module documentation.

Log into your paypal.com account. Click the tab for Profile. Then
click for the IPN preference. What is in the IPN URL? I don't know
where viking includes that information in their instructions but I am
sure it is there.

> I hear what you are saying. Does Paypal get involved in the development of
> these 3rd party modules and assist with their creation etc..?
> Just curious how that process worked.

Paypal.com is not involved, other than publishing the interface code
that is needed. That is pretty much how 3rd party software is
developed. The API is published and developers follow the required
steps to get their program to do what is needed to interface with the
parent program. As for my paypal module, I developed it way back with
Miva Merchant 1.x when paypal.com never even knew what Miva Merchant
was. Miva Corp finally came out with their version of a paypal module
with Merchant 4.14. It is not as mature, feature rich and debugged as
thoroughly as one which has been around since the 2nd millennium.

--
Bill Weiland A2Z Emporium Plus <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc ">http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc </A>
Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, PayPal, Froogle/Yahoo feeds
Rate This, Gift/Wish List, Wait List Mgr, EZ Batch, Shipping & more
Online Documentation <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs">http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs</A>
Question <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS ">http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodu...vc?Screen=SPTS </A>
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Paypal Module



I understand.
Where in Paypal is this IPN information located? I don't recall seeing that in
the module documentation.

I hear what you are saying. Does Paypal get involved in the development of
these 3rd party modules and assist with their creation etc..?
Just curious how that process worked.


Quoting William Weiland <[email protected]>:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > I have provide this list in the past with exact details to what I have done
> and
> > how I have installed this module and still get the good ol "you must have
> not
> > installed it correctly" line.
>
> While you are referring to someone elses (other than mine) paypal
> module, the symptoms suggest the same problem no matter which paypal
> module you use. You either installed it incompletely or you have the
> wrong setting at the IPN preference at paypal.com. What did you put at
> paypal.com for the IPN setting?
>
> --
> Bill Weiland A2Z Emporium Plus <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc">http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc</A>
> Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, PayPal, Froogle/Yahoo feeds
> Rate This, Gift/Wish List, Wait List Mgr, EZ Batch, Shipping & more
> Online Documentation <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs">http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs</A>
> Question <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS">http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS</A>
> |
>

Paypal Module



[email protected] wrote:
> I have provide this list in the past with exact details to what I have done and
> how I have installed this module and still get the good ol "you must have not
> installed it correctly" line.

While you are referring to someone elses (other than mine) paypal
module, the symptoms suggest the same problem no matter which paypal
module you use. You either installed it incompletely or you have the
wrong setting at the IPN preference at paypal.com. What did you put at
paypal.com for the IPN setting?

--
Bill Weiland A2Z Emporium Plus <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc ">http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc </A>
Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, PayPal, Froogle/Yahoo feeds
Rate This, Gift/Wish List, Wait List Mgr, EZ Batch, Shipping & more
Online Documentation <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs">http://www.emporiumplus.com/docs</A>
Question <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=SPTS ">http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodu...vc?Screen=SPTS </A>
|

Paypal Module



There's a problem with the module if you ask me. I have had this problem
forever with the viking module. I have reinstalled it upside down and sideways
and still get orders with no invoices.

I think it needs to be redesigned.
I don't get many paypal orders but all of mine show up this way still today. If
I can't get it to work I am going to drop mine.
I have provide this list in the past with exact details to what I have done and
how I have installed this module and still get the good ol "you must have not
installed it correctly" line.

I gave up.


Quoting Remik - dotCOM designers <[email protected]>:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [mrc] Paypal Module
>
>
> > Ohh boy, I just installed that new paypal module from Viking coders
> > and in the last hour have receive 3 paypal orders and non of which
> > had the order info. It was only happening once every 10 orders
> > with the old paypal module...ooch!
>
> It should virtually never happen with the Viking Coders' module. Check the
> documentation - you must have not installed it correctly.
>
> Remik Kolodziej
> Miva Premier Hosting Partner
> <A HREF ="http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239">http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239</A>
>
>
>
>

Paypal Module



----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [mrc] Paypal Module


> Ohh boy, I just installed that new paypal module from Viking coders
> and in the last hour have receive 3 paypal orders and non of which
> had the order info. It was only happening once every 10 orders
> with the old paypal module...ooch!

It should virtually never happen with the Viking Coders' module. Check the
documentation - you must have not installed it correctly.

Remik Kolodziej
Miva Premier Hosting Partner
<A HREF ="http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239">http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239</A>

Paypal Module



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In a message dated 10/17/2004 4:40:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
I just purchased the Module but now I am trying to delete the
> old paypal payment module and I get a error message saying
> "Payment Module is in use with one or more order and cant
> be removed. What do i so I can remove that payment
> option?

You have two options:

1. remove all old orders and batches that have their payment data captured
using the original PayPal module - payment and shipping modules cannot be
removed until all related orders are removed from the store first;

2. if you can't or don't want to remove the old module because you want to
keep old orders/batches in your store (not sure why), you can open the
Modules tree in your store, find the original PayPal module, and make it
inactive by unchecking the box under the module name on the right hand side
and clicking UPDATE. This will keep the module installed, but it will make
it inactive so it won't show up during checkout.
Ohh boy, I just installed that new paypal module from Viking coders and in
the last hour have receive 3 paypal orders and non of which had the order info.
It was only happening once every 10 orders with the old paypal module...ooch!

Joe Cambria
http://kayakfishingstuff.com

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Paypal Module



> I just purchased the Module but now I am trying to delete the
> old paypal payment module and I get a error message saying
> "Payment Module is in use with one or more order and cant
> be removed. What do i so I can remove that payment
> option?

You have two options:

1. remove all old orders and batches that have their payment data captured
using the original PayPal module - payment and shipping modules cannot be
removed until all related orders are removed from the store first;

2. if you can't or don't want to remove the old module because you want to
keep old orders/batches in your store (not sure why), you can open the
Modules tree in your store, find the original PayPal module, and make it
inactive by unchecking the box under the module name on the right hand side
and clicking UPDATE. This will keep the module installed, but it will make
it inactive so it won't show up during checkout.

Remik Kolodziej
Miva Premier Hosting Partner
<A HREF ="http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239">http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239</A>

Paypal Module



----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:37 PM
Subject: [mrc] Paypal Module


>I am using paypal that supllied with Miva 4.23, but I continue to have the
> same problem of paypal orders missing once in a while. I was wondering if
> the
> module by Viking coders could offer somthing different than the
> pre-packaged
> one.?

Absolutely. Both Viking Coders and Emporium Plus have a working PayPal
module that works much better than the built in version. Same price, too,
so which one you pick may depend on the value added extra features these
modules offer - both described on their web sites.

Remik Kolodziej
Miva Premier Hosting Partner
<A HREF ="http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239 ">http://www.dotcomdesigners.com | 888-321-6239 </A>