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    Hello Jeff,

    Got a similar suggestion from IVO. Thanks to you both. This does lead
    me to an important question.

    Does this problem exist in the rest of Merchant? My particular quest
    deals only in the admin for using these functions. It will likely be
    that only one admin session is ever running for a particular store.
    However, I like to heed good advice and will write my own search
    routine. However, what about the rest of MM? Many functions and
    modules open and close many databases and indexes. How does this idea
    of danger using MM functions from db.mv apply to the rest of MM like
    opening customer, orders, etc? Is there dangers of MM itself leaving
    itself on the wrong records, indexes, etc?

    BTW: I am not really worried about this, but the question is there and
    I am very interested in the line of thought regarding what the dangers
    really encompass.

    TIA,

    Scott
    IDS

    Sunday, October 10, 2004, 10:15:55 AM, you wrote:

    j4c> The easiest safe way to do it is to Open the modules table, and
    j4c> store modules table with new aliases with no indexes and simply
    j4c> use filters to find what you want. On small record sets like the
    j4c> size of the modules table the Mvfilter is so fast that you would
    j4c> be really hard pressed to notice it wasn't an indexed search.

    j4c> - Jeff Huber
    j4c> President 4TheBest eCommerce Solutions
    j4c> http://4TheBest.com
    j4c> [email protected]
    j4c> Office: 760-742-1469
    j4c> Cell: 760-445-8454



    j4c> -----Original Message-----
    j4c> From: Scott Shepard [mailto:[email protected]]
    j4c> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 1:04 AM
    j4c> To: [email protected]
    j4c> Cc: [email protected]
    j4c> Subject: Re[4]: [mrc] need to know if a module is installed?


    j4c> Hello jeff,

    j4c> Thanks for your input. This is helpful. I can imagine how some
    j4c> recursive loop of something exotic can get started.

    j4c> Might you have any ideas? Should I write a function to search the
    j4c> modules db directly -- creating my own indexes, and other such
    j4c> steps?

    j4c> TIA,

    j4c> Scott
    j4c> IDS

    j4c> Saturday, October 9, 2004, 11:46:27 PM, you wrote:

    j4c>> Scott,

    j4c>> Be very careful about calling those functions from within a
    j4c>> module. All sorts of very nasty and hard to track down bad
    j4c> things
    j4c>> can happen if you for example are inside a system extension
    j4c>> module and call to see if module 'abc' is installed in the
    j4c> domain
    j4c>> and the store. Not the least of which is that the wrong
    j4c> index may
    j4c>> end up being left open and the main software may end up
    j4c> calling
    j4c>> some random module next and trying to call whatever system
    j4c>> extension function it just called in yours. And in fact your
    j4c> own
    j4c>> module can even end up getting called twice in a row.

    j4c>> - Jeff Huber
    j4c>> President 4TheBest eCommerce Solutions
    j4c>> http://4TheBest.com
    j4c>> [email protected]
    j4c>> Office: 760-742-1469
    j4c>> Cell: 760-445-8454



    j4c>> -----Original Message-----
    j4c>> From: [email protected]
    j4c>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott
    j4c>> Shepard
    j4c>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:20 PM
    j4c>> To: [email protected]
    j4c>> Subject: Fwd: Re[2]: [mrc] need to know if a module is
    j4c> installed?


    j4c>> Rethinking what my question is, because the docs aren't very
    j4c>> good. I
    j4c>> think what I'm really wanting to know is what the functions
    j4c> do.

    j4c>> <MvDO FILE = "{ g.Library_DB }" NAME = "l.ok" VALUE = "{
    j4c>> Module_Find_Code( g.Module_Code ) }">

    j4c>> It think it will really be enough to know if "l.ok" is true
    j4c> or
    j4c>> false.
    j4c>> I was wondering how Module_Find_Code works.

    j4c>> When realizing this I just found that I could go to see the
    j4c>> function
    j4c>> in "db.mv."

    j4c>> No Harm Done Then! Question and problem solved!

    j4c>> Thanks,

    j4c>> Scott
    j4c>> IDS

    j4c>> This is a forwarded message
    j4c>> From: Scott Shepard <[email protected]>
    j4c>> To: [email protected]
    j4c>> Date: Friday, October 8, 2004, 9:57:36 PM
    j4c>> Subject: [mrc] need to know if a module is installed?

    j4c>> ===8<==============Original message text===============
    j4c>> Thanks Susan. Saw these in the docs at Miva.com, but there's
    j4c> no
    j4c>> examples or
    j4c>> explanation of implementation. When you look at some MM
    j4c> code, it
    j4c>> isn't
    j4c>> very efficient use for what I need to accomplish.

    j4c>> I was hoping someone could share an example illustration the
    j4c>> method. I
    j4c>> probably presuming it's more complicated than it really is.

    j4c>> TIA,

    j4c>> Scott
    j4c>> IDS

    j4c>> Friday, October 8, 2004, 6:07:13 AM, you wrote:

    SP>>> For the domain:

    SP>>> Module_Find_Code('MODCODE')
    SP>>> You may also then want to check Modules.d.active to
    j4c> determine
    j4c>> if the module
    SP>>> is active or not

    SP>>> For the store:

    SP>>> StoreModule_Find_ID(Modules.d.id) - assuming you've already
    j4c>> done the above
    SP>>> and therefore the Modules record pointer is on the right row

    SP>>> HTH, Susan

    SP>>> Susan Petracco
    SP>>> [email protected]
    SP>>> NetBlazon
    SP>>> E-Business for Every Business

    >>>> -----Original Message-----
    >>>> From: [email protected]
    >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott
    j4c>> Shepard
    >>>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:55 AM
    >>>> To: [email protected]
    >>>> Subject: [mrc] need to know if a module is installed?
    >>>>
    >>>> Hello merchant-coders,
    >>>>
    >>>> What would be good method to figure out if a particular
    j4c> module
    j4c>> is
    >>>> installed in the domain and/or the store? Is there a function
    j4c>> already
    >>>> for this? I'm working on a custom mod that needs to know if
    j4c>> certain
    >>>> mods are already installed to enable features of the custom
    j4c>> module.
    >>>> These mods are not required for the custom module and user
    j4c>> input is
    >>>> not available/allowed in this instance.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Best regards,
    >>>> Scott
    >>>> mailto:[email protected]
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
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