expand category tree on storefront?

I said one or the other. You could just use MO and not SFL.

Jason


> Man this becomes even more confusing...but if all the links are SFL style
> they are okay? But having duplicate content from MO is not good?
>
> Leslie
>
>
> > You need to stick with one linking style and get rid of the rest and
block
> > google, etc. from hitting other types of links from the one you are
using.
> > It was never the way to do it. Just a part of the process.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >> Can someone "nutshell" this for me? I'm out of town, find these posts,
> >> have a project I desperately trying to finish that uses, static pages,
> >> Merchant Optimizer and the CBS SFL Suite. Bottom line, am I screwed?
The
> >> site has tons on links to products within the site. I thought this used
> >> to
> >> be the way to do this? Have the rules just changed again?
> >>
> >> FWIW - I have suggested more than once that the client use Jason's
> > services.
> >>
> >> Leslie
> >>
> >>
> >> >> > Depends on whether you have regular links elsewhere to products or
> >> >> > categories. If you have zero, than no problem. Might as well do
> >> it
> >> > just to be sure.
> >> >
> >> > Jason
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> ---------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Great!
> >> >>
> >> >> So we don't need to use a robot.txt file either? I've seen this in
> >> some
> >> >> other posts on this thread so I just want to be sure. :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >> Lori
> >> >>
> >> >> ----------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> On 5/16/05 7:41 PM, "Jason Henderson" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Depends on whether you have regular links elsewhere to products or
> >> >> > categories. If you have zero, than no problem.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jason
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> We're using Search Friendly Links, Meta Tag Generator and Search
> >> > Friendly
> >> >> >> Store Map all by CBS.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> After reading this thread we're wondering what we need to do...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> According to the SFL manual: "... adding the .htaccess rewrite
> >> rule
> >> > will
> >> >> >> take the ' directory' link and rewrite the request to meet the
SFL
> >> > style
> >> >> >> on-the-fly as requests come in. Search engines will only see the
> >> >> static
> >> >> >> link, not the rewritten link as this process is handled within
> >> your
> >> >> web
> >> >> >> server"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If this is true than the URLs created by SFL and SF Store Map
> >> should
> >> >> be
> >> > OK
> >> >> >> as Google won't see the Miva dynamic URLs, (along with the SFL
and
> > SF
> >> >> > Store
> >> >> >> Map URLs), and penalize us for duplicate sites... right????????
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >> >> Lori
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ------------------
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 5/16/05 6:44 PM, "Jason Henderson" <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Same thing. There will be what "appears" to be two different
> >> pages
> >> > with
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >>> exact same content. Banning /Merchant2/ directory "should" not
> >> >> affect
> >> >> >>> rewritten urls via .htaccess such as SFL but don't quote me on
> > that.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Jason
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> I tried to follow the entire thread and didn't see this asked.
> >> If
> >> > so,
> >> >> > I
> >> >> >>>> apologize. What happens if your site has both SFL and normal
> > links
> >> > to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >>>> same page? Will this cause issues?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Paul
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >> >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> >> > Webmaster -
> >> >> >>>> Aquariumpros.com
> >> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:20 PM
> >> >> >>>> To: Annie's Maternity Corner; Miva Merchant Users
> >> >> >>>> Subject: RE: [mru] OT: Google link?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Uhm, I hope there's nothing wrong with THAT! Yeesh! We have ten
> >> > domains
> >> >> >>> with
> >> >> >>>> nothing on them pointing to aquariumpros.com.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Dave Hauser, President
> >> >> >>>> Aquarium Professionals Group
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >> >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> >> Annie's
> >> >> >>>> Maternity Corner
> >> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:10 PM
> >> >> >>>> To: Miva Merchant Users
> >> >> >>>> Subject: RE: [mru] OT: Google link?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> The other URLs just re-direct to my site -- they don't actually
> >> >> have
> >> >> > any
> >> >> >>>> pages of their own....
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> >> >>>> Anne Cavicchi
> >> >> >>>> Annie's
> >> >> >>>> 106 - 402 Baker ST
> >> >> >>>> Nelson, BC V1L4H8
> >> >> >>>> 250-354-2000
> >> >> >>>> www.maternitycorner.com
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >> >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> >> > Webmaster -
> >> >> >>>> Aquariumpros.com
> >> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:03 AM
> >> >> >>>> To: Annie's Maternity Corner; Miva Merchant Users
> >> >> >>>> Subject: RE: [mru] OT: Google link?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> The way I am given to understand it, NO. Not if the content in
> >> the
> >> >> > three
> >> >> >>>> sites is different, but that would not be mirroring. That would
> >> be
> >> >> >>> linking!
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> If however all three of those sites sell the same products,
have
> >> >> the
> >> >> > same
> >> >> >>>> product descriptions and the same categories (are in effect the
> >> >> same
> >> >> >>> store),
> >> >> >>>> then yes, according to Google, that could hurt you.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> The article posted in this thread also hints that Google has
> >> tied
> >> > into
> >> >> > DNS
> >> >> >>>> registration DBs and are looking at who owns sites that appear
> >> to
> >> > have
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >>>> same content.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Dave Hauser, President
> >> >> >>>> Aquarium Professionals Group
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >> >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> >> Annie's
> >> >> >>>> Maternity Corner
> >> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:39 PM
> >> >> >>>> To: Miva Merchant Users
> >> >> >>>> Subject: RE: [mru] OT: Google link?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> So, if I have anniesbaby.com and rebelmaternity.com etc
pointing
> > to
> >> >> >>>> maternitycorner.com that's going to hurt me in google???
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> >> >>>> Anne Cavicchi
> >> >> >>>> Annie's
> >> >> >>>> 106 - 402 Baker ST
> >> >> >>>> Nelson, BC V1L4H8
> >> >> >>>> 250-354-2000
> >> >> >>>> www.maternitycorner.com
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >> >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> >> Aquapro
> >> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:25 AM
> >> >> >>>> To: Bill Gilligan; Miva Merchant Users
> >> >> >>>> Subject: RE: [mru] OT: Google link?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Just wanted to post this after FINALLY hearing back from
Google.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> We had almost 55,000 pages in the Google index from our Search
> >> >> Engine
> >> >> >>> Killer
> >> >> >>>> pages, CBS store map pages, plus all the static content pages
> >> from
> >> > the
> >> >> >>>> informational side of our site.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Now down to 904 and dropping. After quite a few emails to
> >> Google,
> >> >> we
> >> >> >>> finally
> >> >> >>>> got a response. They are absolutely not indexing ANY form of
> > mirror
> >> > or
> >> >> >>> HTML
> >> >> >>>> equivalent of dynamic pages. If content on pages is identical
or
> >> >> even
> >> >> >>> close,
> >> >> >>>> forget about it!
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> It's either the dynamic pages, or ONE series of HTML pages.
Have
> >> a
> >> >> > mirror
> >> >> >>> on
> >> >> >>>> another domain? Google may not list your site at all unless
> >> (like
> >> > us),
> >> >> > you
> >> >> >>>> also have a fair amount of content pages.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> They would not get into algorythym specifics, but the bottom
> >> line
> >> >> is
> >> >> > that
> >> >> >>> we
> >> >> >>>> had too many copies of our store in their index. Their solution
> > was
> >> > to
> >> >> > get
> >> >> >>>> rid OF ALL pages related to Merchant from our site. They said
> > their
> >> >> > spider
> >> >> >>>> will now crawl the site starting at the index and will spider
> >> any
> >> > links
> >> >> > it
> >> >> >>>> finds until content starts looking identical, then it will
stop.
> > It
> >> >> > will
> >> >> >>> be
> >> >> >>>> at least two to six months after we "clean up our site and
> >> remove
> >> >> all
> >> >> >>> forms
> >> >> >>>> of mirror html pages before Google will start indexing new html
> >> >> pages
> >> >> >>>> generated by our new PHP Frame solution (Sebenza Studios). As
> >> that
> >> >> >>> solution
> >> >> >>>> also prevents the spider from seeing standard mvc product and
> >> > category
> >> >> >>>> pages, it will work, but only after we get rid of our SEK pages
> > and
> >> > CBS
> >> >> >>>> Store Map.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> SEK, CBS store map and any other form of mirrored pages are a
> > thing
> >> > of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >>>> past when it comes to Google. Either the PHP Frame solution we
> > have
> >> > or
> >> >> >>>> Search Friendly links with dynamic Miva pages are the only way
> >> to
> >> > fly.
> >> >> > Get
> >> >> >>>> rid of anything else fast!
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Thank you
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Dave Hauser, President
> >> >> >>>> Aquarium Professionals Group
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >> >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Bill
> >> >> > Gilligan
> >> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:16 PM
> >> >> >>>> To: Miva Merchant Users
> >> >> >>>> Subject: [mru] OT: Google link?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Someone recently posted a link to a story about new changes at
> >> > Google.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> I have a client that has found his sales down, and google
> >> listing
> >> >> has
> >> >> >>>> dropped bu thousands. Did they
> >> >> >>>> drop thousands of pages?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Anyone have that link?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Bill
> >> >> >>>>
>
>
>

expand category tree on storefront?



Yeah I've seen this 'module' where the documentation is a 2"x3" image of a
fully expanded category tree fragment.
No text, no admin screenshot, no options to configure. It doesn't look
promising.

What are people doing for this typically?
Do you recode your own opentoken category tree? Does anyone care to share?

Do you let miva make it once then grab the HTML output and just use that?
(seems like a bad thing to do for a store with dynamic content/categories)

Or am I missing something much more obvious?

I see this was a frequent question until last year sometime, is there some
setting buried somewhere that I missed that makes this easy?

For posterity I'd like to get a solution into the archives besides "look at
the sebenza module" which is less than adequate for most 'expand the
category tree' requests.

Thanks,
Art


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jason
> Henderson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:53 AM
> To: Art Shectman; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mru] expand category tree on storefront?
>
>
> Sebenza has this module
> http://jmhonline.net/miva-modules/open+category+tree
>
> http://jmhonline.net/m/Category_Tree_Modules
>
> but It "might" do it on all screens.
>
> Jason
>
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to expand the category tree on the storefront.
> > I've got Miva 4.14 VC/CPT,SFT,PPT and OUI with DWP.
> > Any toggles that I am missing to do this, or do I need to
> replace the Miva
> > Generated category tree completely?
> > Thanks,
> > Art
> >
> >
> > Art Shectman
> > [email protected]
> >
> >

expand category tree on storefront?



Actually, that module is more than adequate. You just happen to only want
it on the sfnt screen. You need to replace the category tree completely
with your own. You can use tokens to only display the custom tree on the
sfnt screen and the dynamic one on other screens if that suits you.

Jason


> Yeah I've seen this 'module' where the documentation is a 2"x3" image of a
> fully expanded category tree fragment.
> No text, no admin screenshot, no options to configure. It doesn't look
> promising.
>
> What are people doing for this typically?
> Do you recode your own opentoken category tree? Does anyone care to
share?
>
> Do you let miva make it once then grab the HTML output and just use that?
> (seems like a bad thing to do for a store with dynamic content/categories)
>
> Or am I missing something much more obvious?
>
> I see this was a frequent question until last year sometime, is there some
> setting buried somewhere that I missed that makes this easy?
>
> For posterity I'd like to get a solution into the archives besides "look
at
> the sebenza module" which is less than adequate for most 'expand the
> category tree' requests.
>
> Thanks,
> Art
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jason
> > Henderson
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:53 AM
> > To: Art Shectman; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [mru] expand category tree on storefront?
> >
> >
> > Sebenza has this module
> > http://jmhonline.net/miva-modules/open+category+tree
> >
> > http://jmhonline.net/m/Category_Tree_Modules
> >
> > but It "might" do it on all screens.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm trying to expand the category tree on the storefront.
> > > I've got Miva 4.14 VC/CPT,SFT,PPT and OUI with DWP.
> > > Any toggles that I am missing to do this, or do I need to
> > replace the Miva
> > > Generated category tree completely?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Art
> > >
> > >
> > > Art Shectman
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > >