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#2 · 09-30-04, 01:18 PM

Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

From: mb mojo [mailto:[email protected]]=20
>=20
> I have 4 Miva stores that I have to transfer to another web=20
> host. I can't find any way to backup and import the existing=20
> store content. In a test on the new server, flat file import=20
> didn't seem to preserve the categories. The product=20
> attributes, which are extensive on 3 or the stores, are lost.=20
> There's no obvious way to import the orders and customers.
> =20
> Unless I'm missing something, changing web hosts means a near=20
> total rebuild of the store and only one of my 4 customers is=20
> willing to do that. The others want a different ecommerce=20
> solution that is more portable if that's the case.
> =20
> Anybody have any suggestions or can identify anything I'm missing?

Any good host will move the store for you as-is to=20
keep you from losing any data. If they don't offer
that service, they are not a good choice for
Miva Merchant hosting. :-) That's my opinion of
course...

David
Hostasaurus.Com

#3 · 09-30-04, 01:23 PM

Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

Not if you go with us or one of the other Miva Specialist Hosts here.

We'll move all your data for you. No fuss, no mess.

Little to no downtime in most cases.

Vic Vega
WolfPaw Computers
Miva Merchant Hosting Specialists
"Put the power of the pack to work for you!"(sm)
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mb mojo
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 4:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mru] Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

I have 4 Miva stores that I have to transfer to another web host. I
can't find any way to backup and import the existing store content. In a
test on the new server, flat file import didn't seem to preserve the
categories. The product attributes, which are extensive on 3 or the
stores, are lost. There's no obvious way to import the orders and
customers.

Unless I'm missing something, changing web hosts means a near total
rebuild of the store and only one of my 4 customers is willing to do
that. The others want a different ecommerce solution that is more
portable if that's the case.

Anybody have any suggestions or can identify anything I'm missing?

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#4 · 09-30-04, 01:24 PM

Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

I agree. If you're on your own in moving, then the host you're moving to is
going to be a problem. Several hosts on this list will move you at no charge
in a way that keeps down time, and your effort, to almost nill, such as
Hostasaurus... So before you go through all the effort, it might be worth
the investigation time in finding the right host to move TO.

Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Hubbard" <[email protected]>
To: "mb mojo" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: [mru] Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

From: mb mojo [mailto:[email protected]]
>
> I have 4 Miva stores that I have to transfer to another web
> host. I can't find any way to backup and import the existing
> store content. In a test on the new server, flat file import
> didn't seem to preserve the categories. The product
> attributes, which are extensive on 3 or the stores, are lost.
> There's no obvious way to import the orders and customers.
>
> Unless I'm missing something, changing web hosts means a near
> total rebuild of the store and only one of my 4 customers is
> willing to do that. The others want a different ecommerce
> solution that is more portable if that's the case.
>
> Anybody have any suggestions or can identify anything I'm missing?

Any good host will move the store for you as-is to
keep you from losing any data. If they don't offer
that service, they are not a good choice for
Miva Merchant hosting. :-) That's my opinion of
course...

David
Hostasaurus.Com

#5 · 09-30-04, 01:42 PM

Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

Hi MB:

No, the exporting won't get most of the store
details. Just move the entire database directory,
and the script directory (where the .mvc files are)
to the new host. You will probably need to update
some licenses and change some of the server URLs
if you don't own your Merchant license. If you're
not sure what to change them to (if anything), check
with your new host to make sure you get them right.
By moving all the database files, you can move the
stores between servers as-is without losing any
data/settings.

Jen
Hostasaurus.Com
Miva Premier Hosting Partner
813.971.8772
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: mb mojo [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mru] Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

I have 4 Miva stores that I have to transfer to another web host. I
can't find any way to backup and import the existing store content. In a
test on the new server, flat file import didn't seem to preserve the
categories. The product attributes, which are extensive on 3 or the
stores, are lost. There's no obvious way to import the orders and
customers.
=20
Unless I'm missing something, changing web hosts means a near total
rebuild of the store and only one of my 4 customers is willing to do
that. The others want a different ecommerce solution that is more
portable if that's the case.
=20
Anybody have any suggestions or can identify anything I'm missing?
=20

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#6 · 09-30-04, 01:52 PM

Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

For clarification, you mean FTP those files, right? Since MB was talking
exporting and importing, I figure it might be worth mentioning.

Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jen Ferraz" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: [mru] Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

Hi MB:

No, the exporting won't get most of the store
details. Just move the entire database directory,
and the script directory (where the .mvc files are)
to the new host. You will probably need to update
some licenses and change some of the server URLs
if you don't own your Merchant license. If you're
not sure what to change them to (if anything), check
with your new host to make sure you get them right.
By moving all the database files, you can move the
stores between servers as-is without losing any
data/settings.

Jen
Hostasaurus.Com
Miva Premier Hosting Partner
813.971.8772
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: mb mojo [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mru] Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

I have 4 Miva stores that I have to transfer to another web host. I
can't find any way to backup and import the existing store content. In a
test on the new server, flat file import didn't seem to preserve the
categories. The product attributes, which are extensive on 3 or the
stores, are lost. There's no obvious way to import the orders and
customers.

Unless I'm missing something, changing web hosts means a near total
rebuild of the store and only one of my 4 customers is willing to do
that. The others want a different ecommerce solution that is more
portable if that's the case.

Anybody have any suggestions or can identify anything I'm missing?

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#7 · 09-30-04, 01:56 PM

Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

Details, details :-) Yes, FTP or a similar method
of file transfer is needed.

Jen
Hostasaurus.Com
Miva Premier Hosting Partner
813.971.8772
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Lasker - Merchant Today [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [mru] Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

For clarification, you mean FTP those files, right? Since MB was talking
exporting and importing, I figure it might be worth mentioning.

Chuck
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Jen Ferraz" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: [mru] Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

Hi MB:

No, the exporting won't get most of the store
details. Just move the entire database directory,
and the script directory (where the .mvc files are)
to the new host. You will probably need to update
some licenses and change some of the server URLs
if you don't own your Merchant license. If you're
not sure what to change them to (if anything), check
with your new host to make sure you get them right.
By moving all the database files, you can move the
stores between servers as-is without losing any
data/settings.

Jen
Hostasaurus.Com
Miva Premier Hosting Partner
813.971.8772
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: mb mojo [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mru] Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

I have 4 Miva stores that I have to transfer to another web host. I
can't find any way to backup and import the existing store content. In a
test on the new server, flat file import didn't seem to preserve the
categories. The product attributes, which are extensive on 3 or the
stores, are lost. There's no obvious way to import the orders and
customers.

Unless I'm missing something, changing web hosts means a near total
rebuild of the store and only one of my 4 customers is willing to do
that. The others want a different ecommerce solution that is more
portable if that's the case.

Anybody have any suggestions or can identify anything I'm missing?

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#8 · 09-30-04, 02:39 PM

Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

----- Original Message -----
From: "mb mojo" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 2:18 PM
Subject: [mru] Changing web hosts - how to transfer miva store data

> I have 4 Miva stores that I have to transfer to another
> web host. I can't find any way to backup and import the
> existing store content. In a test on the new server, flat
> file import didn't seem to preserve the categories. The
> product attributes, which are extensive on 3 or the stores,
> are lost. There's no obvious way to import the orders and
> customers.

Hi MB,

Any decent host (and most are well represented on this list), will transfery
our existing store "as is" with all your settings, products, customer
database, and everything else you currently have. If your new host doesn't
offer this kind of service - look for a different host. A good host should
provide this service to you for several reasons: a) to make sure everything
gets transferred properly and you do not lose anything in the process, and
b) the new host needs to change your Merchant license key anyway - unless
you own your license outright and are not just leasing one from your current
host.

Moving Miva Merchant stores is very straightforward and not a hugely
difficult process. The difference is in the pudding, as they say, though.
Some hosts will put your domain name (and your store, email, etc) in a limbo
while the DNS changes replicate. Others will make sure you have zero
downtime and do not have to check two stores for 2-3 days to make sure you
get all your orders, emails, etc. The more transparrent we can make it for
you, the better the end result.

Hope this helps, but if you have any questions - my number is in the
signature.

Cheers!

Remik Kolodziej
Miva Premier Hosting Partner
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