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    A while back we were discussing the reliability of MVM on IIS. Anyone have
    some experience with IIS 6 and MVM? I've been running some smaller sites
    without a problem, but I'm wondering how IIS would handle a large site.

    I was running a high-traffic application on IIS 5 in the MVM 4.x early days
    and we had to restart IIS every couple days. I wonder if anything has
    changed. ?

    Also does anyone know if MVM 5 changed performance/reliability of the VM?

    TIA.

    Ben



    #2
    Miva VM reliability on IIS



    Maybe I should rephrase my question to cover a broader spectrum ... anyone
    run into Miva VM stability trouble on Linux?

    Ben

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected]
    [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Walsh
    Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:05 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS

    A while back we were discussing the reliability of MVM on IIS. Anyone have
    some experience with IIS 6 and MVM? I've been running some smaller sites
    without a problem, but I'm wondering how IIS would handle a large site.

    I was running a high-traffic application on IIS 5 in the MVM 4.x early days
    and we had to restart IIS every couple days. I wonder if anything has
    changed. ?

    Also does anyone know if MVM 5 changed performance/reliability of the VM?

    TIA.

    Ben


    Comment


      #3
      Miva VM reliability on IIS



      Hi,

      I run a few websites on IIS and some high traffic on Linux. I have the
      latest VM and I didn't had any server problems at all. The Linux server is a
      3.0 GHz Pentium Processor (800MHz FSB) with 1 GB DDR PC2700 RAM ECC and the
      Win is 2.6 GHz Celeron Processor (400MHz FSB) with 512 MB DDR PC2700 RAM
      ECC. The OS is 2000 Advanced Server.
      I also run all my back-up clients websites on my intranet server (2000
      Advanced server too) with IIS... and a poor 2Ghz AMD processor + 250 RAM :)
      What can I say.. all works fine .. no problem at all. I never had to reboot
      the server. I run only "home made" mivascript applications .. and I can only
      say that they are more resources consumers than the Merchant.
      Beside the server configuration one important thing that matter for me is
      the Miva Scripting. You can have the best server in the world, but if you
      run dumb scripts on it, you will certainly have problems. So for my side I
      never had problems with the Virtual Machine..

      Best regards,
      Claudiu Bischoff

      -----Original Message-----
      From: [email protected]
      [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ben Walsh
      Sent: mercredi 18 mai 2005 19:09
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: RE: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS


      Maybe I should rephrase my question to cover a broader spectrum ... anyone
      run into Miva VM stability trouble on Linux?

      Ben

      -----Original Message-----
      From: [email protected]
      [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Walsh
      Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:05 PM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS

      A while back we were discussing the reliability of MVM on IIS. Anyone have
      some experience with IIS 6 and MVM? I've been running some smaller sites
      without a problem, but I'm wondering how IIS would handle a large site.

      I was running a high-traffic application on IIS 5 in the MVM 4.x early days
      and we had to restart IIS every couple days. I wonder if anything has
      changed. ?

      Also does anyone know if MVM 5 changed performance/reliability of the VM?

      TIA.

      Ben


      Comment


        #4
        Miva VM reliability on IIS



        Thanks Claudiu, glad to hear you've had positive experiences with the =
        VM.
        Looks like you're running some decent hardware there too ;-)

        I guess there's only one way to find out how reliable it is for our
        situation -- I'll have to bang it up and see what happens.

        The frequent crashing we were dealing with may have had to do with the =
        fact
        that we were using SQL with Miva -- or that we were doing a lot of =
        MvCALL.
        Don't know.

        Ben

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected]
        [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Claudiu
        Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:34 PM
        To: Ben Walsh; [email protected]
        Subject: RE: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS

        Hi,

        I run a few websites on IIS and some high traffic on Linux. I have the
        latest VM and I didn't had any server problems at all. The Linux server =
        is a
        3.0 GHz Pentium Processor (800MHz FSB) with 1 GB DDR PC2700 RAM ECC and =
        the
        Win is 2.6 GHz Celeron Processor (400MHz FSB) with 512 MB DDR PC2700 RAM
        ECC. The OS is 2000 Advanced Server.
        I also run all my back-up clients websites on my intranet server (2000
        Advanced server too) with IIS... and a poor 2Ghz AMD processor + 250 RAM =
        :)
        What can I say.. all works fine .. no problem at all. I never had to =
        reboot
        the server. I run only "home made" mivascript applications .. and I can =
        only
        say that they are more resources consumers than the Merchant.
        Beside the server configuration one important thing that matter for me =
        is
        the Miva Scripting. You can have the best server in the world, but if =
        you
        run dumb scripts on it, you will certainly have problems. So for my side =
        I
        never had problems with the Virtual Machine..

        Best regards,
        Claudiu Bischoff

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected]
        [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ben Walsh
        Sent: mercredi 18 mai 2005 19:09
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: RE: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS


        Maybe I should rephrase my question to cover a broader spectrum ... =
        anyone
        run into Miva VM stability trouble on Linux?

        Ben

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected]
        [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Walsh
        Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:05 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS

        A while back we were discussing the reliability of MVM on IIS. Anyone =
        have
        some experience with IIS 6 and MVM? I've been running some smaller sites
        without a problem, but I'm wondering how IIS would handle a large site.

        I was running a high-traffic application on IIS 5 in the MVM 4.x early =
        days
        and we had to restart IIS every couple days. I wonder if anything has
        changed. ?

        Also does anyone know if MVM 5 changed performance/reliability of the =
        VM?

        TIA.

        Ben


        Comment


          #5
          Miva VM reliability on IIS



          Oh.. I forgot to tell you that I had problems with SQL ... a while ago and I
          had to work with native dbf ( with a solid dbf management we can have lot of
          data without any problems.. the only problem is the space after that).
          Didn't tested with the new miva-sql (waiting for the compiler)... but I'll
          keep you informed when I'll do it :)

          Best regards
          Claudiu

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Ben Walsh [mailto:[email protected]]
          Sent: mercredi 18 mai 2005 19:43
          To: 'Claudiu'; [email protected]
          Subject: RE: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS


          Thanks Claudiu, glad to hear you've had positive experiences with the VM.
          Looks like you're running some decent hardware there too ;-)

          I guess there's only one way to find out how reliable it is for our
          situation -- I'll have to bang it up and see what happens.

          The frequent crashing we were dealing with may have had to do with the fact
          that we were using SQL with Miva -- or that we were doing a lot of MvCALL.
          Don't know.

          Ben

          -----Original Message-----
          From: [email protected]
          [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Claudiu
          Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:34 PM
          To: Ben Walsh; [email protected]
          Subject: RE: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS

          Hi,

          I run a few websites on IIS and some high traffic on Linux. I have the
          latest VM and I didn't had any server problems at all. The Linux server is a
          3.0 GHz Pentium Processor (800MHz FSB) with 1 GB DDR PC2700 RAM ECC and the
          Win is 2.6 GHz Celeron Processor (400MHz FSB) with 512 MB DDR PC2700 RAM
          ECC. The OS is 2000 Advanced Server.
          I also run all my back-up clients websites on my intranet server (2000
          Advanced server too) with IIS... and a poor 2Ghz AMD processor + 250 RAM :)
          What can I say.. all works fine .. no problem at all. I never had to reboot
          the server. I run only "home made" mivascript applications .. and I can only
          say that they are more resources consumers than the Merchant.
          Beside the server configuration one important thing that matter for me is
          the Miva Scripting. You can have the best server in the world, but if you
          run dumb scripts on it, you will certainly have problems. So for my side I
          never had problems with the Virtual Machine..

          Best regards,
          Claudiu Bischoff

          -----Original Message-----
          From: [email protected]
          [mailto:owner-mi[email protected]]On Behalf Of Ben Walsh
          Sent: mercredi 18 mai 2005 19:09
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: RE: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS


          Maybe I should rephrase my question to cover a broader spectrum ... anyone
          run into Miva VM stability trouble on Linux?

          Ben

          -----Original Message-----
          From: [email protected]
          [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Walsh
          Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:05 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: [meu] Miva VM reliability on IIS

          A while back we were discussing the reliability of MVM on IIS. Anyone have
          some experience with IIS 6 and MVM? I've been running some smaller sites
          without a problem, but I'm wondering how IIS would handle a large site.

          I was running a high-traffic application on IIS 5 in the MVM 4.x early days
          and we had to restart IIS every couple days. I wonder if anything has
          changed. ?

          Also does anyone know if MVM 5 changed performance/reliability of the VM?

          TIA.

          Ben


          Comment


            #6
            Miva VM reliability on IIS



            I know its a small distinction to some, but Empresa was never released for
            IIS 6 -- only for IIS 5 under NT/W2K. There are instructions for its
            install under W3K, but no formal statement of support for that
            platform. Nor was one ever predicted/intended when we last chased the matter.

            We have had many more issues regarding the stability of MySQL under W2K
            that Empresa. The idea of combining the two on one stable server can prove
            a somewhat frightful experience. And the cost and hardware resources
            required under Win for that combo are silly-level compared to Linux. Once
            you include the OS and basic supporting apps, you are talking about close
            to a $3k-$4k software difference between the two platforms. Running MM
            under Win has always been one of the most expensive ways to run Merchant -
            and now its even worse.

            To quote our President's daddy: "Just not going to do it. Not prudent at
            this juncture."

            While internal corporate users might be able to justify a $3k software
            investment on a $3k hardware platform, most hosting companies will skip
            that $6,000 Win solution and smile large at a $1,000 all-inclusive Linux
            solution.

            In our experience the stability issues of MM under Win have always revolved
            around add-on modules -- not with the core systems. We have had
            "professional" module developers react to serious Win-based module issues
            with a simple "So what?".

            Just an opinion...

            Jonathan
            Driftwood Network Services




            At 10:05 PM 5/17/2005, Ben Walsh wrote:
            >A while back we were discussing the reliability of MVM on IIS. Anyone have
            >some experience with IIS 6 and MVM? I've been running some smaller sites
            >without a problem, but I'm wondering how IIS would handle a large site.
            >
            >I was running a high-traffic application on IIS 5 in the MVM 4.x early days
            >and we had to restart IIS every couple days. I wonder if anything has
            >changed. ?
            >
            >Also does anyone know if MVM 5 changed performance/reliability of the VM?
            >
            >TIA.
            >
            >Ben
            >
            >

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