Letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO, to Miva End-Users and Partners

Hello,

There is a link to a letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO, to all Miva End-Users
and Partners on the Miva.com homepage.

Thank you.

Miva Corporation
(858) 490-2570
Mon. - Fri., 9am - 5pm (PST)

Letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO



Yes there is but, since you are having sooooo much trouble finding it. The
link is below.

<A HREF ="http://www.miva.com/fwht_letter.html">http://www.miva.com/fwht_letter.html</A>

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Jackson Wilson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:20 PM
Subject: [meu] Letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO


> Miva User Group Support wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
>
> Hello, to you, too ... whoever you are.
>
> > There is a link to a letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO, to all
> Miva End-Users
> > and Partners on the Miva.com homepage.
> >
>
> It is not true that there is a link at miva.com.
>
> It would have been so simple to have put
> the link in the e-mail message, instead of expecting us
> go to hunting for it at miva.com. For that matter, it
> would have been a friendly gesture to have posted the letter
> to this list.
>
> At miva.com, I tried "Company" and I tried "Support."
> Nothing there, at least nothing that my tired eyes could
> make out.
>
> > Thank you.
>
> You're welcome.
>
> Jack
>
>

Letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO



Thank you, Darren. I always had trouble finding the lower
right-hand corner ... since high school. It was a permanent
feature of my assessments: "Jack has trouble finding the
lower right-hand corner." My parents worried about it. At
the
dinner table, they would say, in heavy tones, "Jack has
trouble
finding the lower right-hand corner." Heck, when I was in
my
twenties, my first wife would say, "Jack has trouble finding
the
lower right-hand corner." (Ah, well, she was a chronic
complainer, and her other corners were not all that hot,
either.)

I went back to miva.com, and finally found the lower
right-hand corner . . . after all these years, and after all
this worry about the lower right-hand corner.

And now I understand why I always had trouble
finding the lower right-hand corner: there's really nothing
there.

Jack


Darren Ehlers wrote:
>
> Jack,
>
> Actually, it is on their front page....it's top in the "News" section in the
> lower-right-hand corner:
>
> "Special Announcement to Miva Partners and End-Users"
>
> I had to look once or twice myself before finding it.
>
> Darren Ehlers
> OpenUI Developer Consortium
> <A HREF ="http://www.openui.org/">http://www.openui.org/</A>
>

Letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO



I've found it helpful at times to turn the monitor on its left side when
searching for a specific item on a page. YMMV.

Tom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of R. Jackson Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [meu] Letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO
>
>
> Thank you, Darren. I always had trouble finding the lower
> right-hand corner ... since high school. It was a permanent
> feature of my assessments: "Jack has trouble finding the
> lower right-hand corner." My parents worried about it. At
> the
> dinner table, they would say, in heavy tones, "Jack has
> trouble
> finding the lower right-hand corner." Heck, when I was in
> my
> twenties, my first wife would say, "Jack has trouble finding
> the
> lower right-hand corner." (Ah, well, she was a chronic
> complainer, and her other corners were not all that hot,
> either.)
>
> I went back to miva.com, and finally found the lower
> right-hand corner . . . after all these years, and after all
> this worry about the lower right-hand corner.
>
> And now I understand why I always had trouble
> finding the lower right-hand corner: there's really nothing
> there.
>
> Jack
>
>
> Darren Ehlers wrote:
> >
> > Jack,
> >
> > Actually, it is on their front page....it's top in the "News"
> section in the
> > lower-right-hand corner:
> >
> > "Special Announcement to Miva Partners and End-Users"
> >
> > I had to look once or twice myself before finding it.
> >
> > Darren Ehlers
> > OpenUI Developer Consortium
> > <A HREF ="http://www.openui.org/">http://www.openui.org/</A>
> >
>
>

Letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO



Jack, that was so funny that I forgive you for posting it as a reply to my
2-D arrays question (making me think - wow, lots of theories on this one).
If you didn't post it as a reply to my 2-D arrays question then my mail
client needs a kick in the lower right corner to fix its threading.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 00:51:24 -0300, R. Jackson Wilson
<[email protected]> gave utterance to the following:

> Thank you, Darren. I always had trouble finding the lower
> right-hand corner ... since high school. It was a permanent
> feature of my assessments: "Jack has trouble finding the
> lower right-hand corner." My parents worried about it. At
> the
> dinner table, they would say, in heavy tones, "Jack has
> trouble
> finding the lower right-hand corner." Heck, when I was in
> my
> twenties, my first wife would say, "Jack has trouble finding
> the
> lower right-hand corner." (Ah, well, she was a chronic
> complainer, and her other corners were not all that hot,
> either.)
>
> I went back to miva.com, and finally found the lower
> right-hand corner . . . after all these years, and after all
> this worry about the lower right-hand corner.
>
> And now I understand why I always had trouble
> finding the lower right-hand corner: there's really nothing
> there.
>
--
Richard Grevers
Between two evils always pick the one you haven't tried

Letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO



I've found that replying to a message, even when erasing all previous contents
and changing the title will still show up as continuation of a thread in some
mail clients. I usually have that happen when I'm lazy and do a reply-all (and
delete all prior contents) to post a new message.

Then again, I could be dead wrong and it's just your mail client.

Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of Richard Grevers
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:32 AM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [meu] Letter from Joe Austin, Miva CEO
>
>
> Jack, that was so funny that I forgive you for posting it as a reply to my
> 2-D arrays question (making me think - wow, lots of theories on this one).
> If you didn't post it as a reply to my 2-D arrays question then my mail
> client needs a kick in the lower right corner to fix its threading.
>
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 00:51:24 -0300, R. Jackson Wilson
> <[email protected]> gave utterance to the following:
>
> > Thank you, Darren. I always had trouble finding the lower
> > right-hand corner ... since high school. It was a permanent
> > feature of my assessments: "Jack has trouble finding the
> > lower right-hand corner." My parents worried about it. At
> > the
> > dinner table, they would say, in heavy tones, "Jack has
> > trouble
> > finding the lower right-hand corner." Heck, when I was in
> > my
> > twenties, my first wife would say, "Jack has trouble finding
> > the
> > lower right-hand corner." (Ah, well, she was a chronic
> > complainer, and her other corners were not all that hot,
> > either.)
> >
> > I went back to miva.com, and finally found the lower
> > right-hand corner . . . after all these years, and after all
> > this worry about the lower right-hand corner.
> >
> > And now I understand why I always had trouble
> > finding the lower right-hand corner: there's really nothing
> > there.
> >
> --
> Richard Grevers
> Between two evils always pick the one you haven't tried
>
>

Replying instead of Composing



On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 03:07:57 -0500, Tom <[email protected]> gave utterance
to the following:

> I've found that replying to a message, even when erasing all previous
> contents
> and changing the title will still show up as continuation of a thread in
> some
> mail clients. I usually have that happen when I'm lazy and do a
> reply-all (and
> delete all prior contents) to post a new message.
>
> Then again, I could be dead wrong and it's just your mail client.
>
When you hit "reply" or "reply all", your mail client is required to
include a header giving the ID of the message you have replied to. It does
this silently behind the scenes. The header will either be "References:"
(most commonly used for news), or "In-Reply-to:". Clients which use
threading base their display on this information.

In Jack's post, the header was
References: <oprux6gocgzs1r4a@localhost>
<[email protected]>

The way to avoid this, of course, is to click "compose". In Opera, if I
click compose while viewing this mailing list, it automagically chooses
the list address to send to. (which is what most people are after when
they click "reply"). The only problem I have is that it doesn't
automatically select the correct "from" address that the list will accept,
and sometimes if I forget to check it, my posts are rejected.

Here endeth today's edjumacation
--
Richard Grevers
Between two evils always pick the one you haven't tried