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    Miva 4.24: Display inconsistency between Internet Explorer

    I am in the very earliest stages - Day One - of "re-skinning" a Miva 4.24 OUI site. And I'm running into display inconsistencies between Internet Explorer 8 and Firefox 9 that I just can't seem to get a handle on.

    If you wouldn't mind, please take a look at the following page in each browser:

    http://dev.showbustours.com/Merchant...roduct_Count=5

    You can see that in IE, the center column - the product information - is "bleeding" into the left column. This doesn't happen in Firefox.

    Also in IE, you can see that text in both the left column and the right column have significantly more padding on the right than on the left, even though right and left are both designated as 15px in the CSS. (I've left the CSS internal for now to make issues easier to diagnose).

    Does anyone have any idea on how I can solve this? My thanks in advance for your input.

    #2
    Re: Miva 4.24: Display inconsistency between Internet Explorer

    May I ask why you are putting such effort into an MM4 site? Is there a specific module that you can't find for a MM5.5 store?

    Leslie
    Leslie Kirk
    Miva Certified Developer
    Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
    Previously of Webs Your Way
    (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

    Email me: [email protected]
    www.lesliekirk.com

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      #3
      Re: Miva 4.24: Display inconsistency between Internet Explorer

      The store has about 15 or 20 modules installed and the client like to avoid paying to replace them all. Also, this issue notwithstanding, I'm more capable and experienced with MM4 than with 5.5, even though I have done a 5.5 site recently. And the client is already familiar and comfortable with the MM4 order processing interface. I understand the drawbacks, but they made the decision to stay with this version. So that's what I'm left working with.
      Last edited by shooter56; 01-22-12, 07:30 AM.

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        #4
        Re: Miva 4.24: Display inconsistency between Internet Explorer

        Understood - do check to see how many of those modules are no longer needed. I sure you have already mentioned MM4's end of life to them, along with the issues of of PCI Compliance and all that stuff.
        Leslie Kirk
        Miva Certified Developer
        Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
        Previously of Webs Your Way
        (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

        Email me: [email protected]
        www.lesliekirk.com

        Follow me: Twitter | Facebook | FourSquare | Pinterest | Flickr

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          #5
          Re: Miva 4.24: Display inconsistency between Internet Explorer

          Yes to all. Do you have any ideas on the specific issues in my post?

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            #6
            Re: Miva 4.24: Display inconsistency between Internet Explorer

            The first problem is that there is no doctype. Without a doctype, you'll be forever chasing your tail with modern browsers AND you may solve a problem for you...but you'll have no idea how anyone else sees the site.
            Bruce Golub
            Phosphor Media - "Your Success is our Business"

            Improve Your Customer Service | Get MORE Customers | Edit CSS/Javascript/HTML Easily | Make Your Site Faster | Get Indexed by Google | Free Modules | Follow Us on Facebook
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              #7
              Re: Miva 4.24: Display inconsistency between Internet Explorer

              Your 3 main content <td> tags are rendering a total of 175+620+192 = 987 pixels wide. Your site content is set to 960 pixels wide. This is freaking out IE.

              After looking at the source script, I must say you are likely going to spend a LOT of time debugging IE in its various flavors because the site will render in IEs notorious quirksmode because of the lack of a doctype. PLUS the ugly html the MM4 spits out will make debugging difficult.

              Merchant 4 will not allow you do add a <doctype> tag because the starting <HTML> tags is output directly by merchant.mvc. There is a trick to get around this but it involves renaming merchant.mvc and adding a new fake merchant.mvc to act as a front end.

              If you do add a doctype something else will break because the site will render in a more "standard" way, and so you will have to debug those.

              As for your 15-20 modules, just let me say I've done a lot of these conversions and that number will likely go down to less than 5, because there is so much more built in now.
              Ray Yates
              "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."
              --- Sir Isaac Newton

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                #8
                Re: Miva 4.24: Display inconsistency between Internet Explorer

                ...and you won't be rebuilding it a year from now in MM5. Not that you want to hear this, but we (and a number of other developers) will no longer build anything in MM4. Beside being an ultimate waste of money, there's some liability involved as you should know that its not PCI compliant. (Now, being one off, its highly unlikely that anything will become of this liability, but its out there.)
                Bruce Golub
                Phosphor Media - "Your Success is our Business"

                Improve Your Customer Service | Get MORE Customers | Edit CSS/Javascript/HTML Easily | Make Your Site Faster | Get Indexed by Google | Free Modules | Follow Us on Facebook
                phosphormedia.com

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                  #9
                  Re: Miva 4.24: Display inconsistency between Internet Explorer

                  Thanks to everyone for the replies. I'm happy to report that I have convinced the client to upgrade to 5.5, so this won't be an issue. Your feedback was much appreciated.
                  Last edited by shooter56; 01-24-12, 01:34 PM.

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