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    Significant Google Search Console (mobile) CLS and LCP Warnings

    Significant Google Search Console (mobile) CLS and LCP Warnings.

    Cumulative Layout Shift (CLS): https://web.dev/cls/

    Largest Contentful Paint (LCP): https://web.dev/lcp/

    Our CTGY and PROD pages have minor modifications from their original Levels ReadyTheme stock version. The only reason I opted to publish this here instead of in the Levels ReadyTheme forum, is because I wanted to give a heads up to Miva Shadows 2.0 developers what is going on before it may become an issue.

    PS: Sorry for the font type, size and lack of anchor text links, but all Miva forum formatting options have been missing for me for the last few days.
    Thank you, Bill Davis

    #2
    Hi Bill,

    Thank you for post this. While Web Vitals should not be mainstream until 2021, I have already taken care of them for Shadows 2.0.
    Matt Zimmermann
    Front-End Development Director / Miva, Inc.

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      #3
      God bless Google. Keeping UI/UX developers employed for years.
      Bruce Golub
      Phosphor Media - "Your Success is our Business"

      Improve Your Customer Service | Get MORE Customers | Edit CSS/Javascript/HTML Easily | Make Your Site Faster | Get Indexed by Google | Free Modules | Follow Us on Facebook
      phosphormedia.com

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        #4
        Originally posted by Matt Zimmermann View Post
        Hi Bill,

        Thank you for post this. While Web Vitals should not be mainstream until 2021, I have already taken care of them for Shadows 2.0.
        Any word on Colossus? A store owner just launched a makeover with Colussus and Google PageSpeed Insights is having a real field day with it. THE biggest issue seems to be with the themes/colossus/ui/css/ReadyThemeIcons.woff file. No matter what I try I cannot get Google to recognize that I have set it up to "preload". Then the CLS is awful.
        Leslie Kirk
        Miva Certified Developer
        Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
        Previously of Webs Your Way
        (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

        Email me: [email protected]
        www.lesliekirk.com

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          #5
          Hi Leslie,

          Colossus v2 should be sometime 2021 Q1...probably nearer the end.
          Matt Zimmermann
          Front-End Development Director / Miva, Inc.

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            #6
            meanwhile, i've got 3 to 1 odds that google drops this before 2022. :) its probably the most non-sensible metric google has ever issued. while i get what its attempt is, its practicality is zero.
            Bruce Golub
            Phosphor Media - "Your Success is our Business"

            Improve Your Customer Service | Get MORE Customers | Edit CSS/Javascript/HTML Easily | Make Your Site Faster | Get Indexed by Google | Free Modules | Follow Us on Facebook
            phosphormedia.com

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              #7
              Originally posted by Bruce - PhosphorMedia View Post
              meanwhile, i've got 3 to 1 odds that google drops this before 2022. :) its probably the most non-sensible metric google has ever issued. while i get what its attempt is, its practicality is zero.
              But Google is as Google does. Storeowners are in manic panic mode over this. I don't think they are going to want to hear a "bet" that it would go away. I thought AMP pages were a fad too...Google still looks for them.
              Leslie Kirk
              Miva Certified Developer
              Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
              Previously of Webs Your Way
              (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

              Email me: [email protected]
              www.lesliekirk.com

              Follow me: Twitter | Facebook | FourSquare | Pinterest | Flickr

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                #8
                well, amp actually made some sense esp. on phones.
                Bruce Golub
                Phosphor Media - "Your Success is our Business"

                Improve Your Customer Service | Get MORE Customers | Edit CSS/Javascript/HTML Easily | Make Your Site Faster | Get Indexed by Google | Free Modules | Follow Us on Facebook
                phosphormedia.com

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Matt Zimmermann View Post
                  Hi Leslie,

                  Colossus v2 should be sometime 2021 Q1...probably nearer the end.
                  Will we be able to easily apply the changes/differences/additions to an existing version of Colossus? If so, will detailed how-to instructions be provided? To be able to do something like this would be HUGE!
                  Leslie Kirk
                  Miva Certified Developer
                  Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
                  Previously of Webs Your Way
                  (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

                  Email me: [email protected]
                  www.lesliekirk.com

                  Follow me: Twitter | Facebook | FourSquare | Pinterest | Flickr

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                    #10
                    Hi Leslie,

                    Like with Shadows 2, there will not be a direct update path.
                    Matt Zimmermann
                    Front-End Development Director / Miva, Inc.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Matt Zimmermann View Post
                      Hi Leslie,

                      Like with Shadows 2, there will not be a direct update path.
                      Sigh...
                      Leslie Kirk
                      Miva Certified Developer
                      Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
                      Previously of Webs Your Way
                      (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

                      Email me: [email protected]
                      www.lesliekirk.com

                      Follow me: Twitter | Facebook | FourSquare | Pinterest | Flickr

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bruce - PhosphorMedia View Post
                        meanwhile, i've got 3 to 1 odds that google drops this before 2022. :) its probably the most non-sensible metric google has ever issued. while i get what its attempt is, its practicality is zero.
                        Not that I'm going to bet on this being dropped, there is an awful lot of effort on Google's part to get this incorporated. The whole concept is to improve the user experience. It does seem like it's a step backwards from Responsive design as I'm now wondering if I need to start having multiple image sizes (or at least 2) for each image - one for the mobile version and one for the desktop. At least the mobile version is getting better (from web.dev/measure/}
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                        But I need to find out where the 2 instances of [email protected] are coming from to improve the Best Practices and remove "Some third-party scripts may contain known security vulnerabilities that are easily identified and exploited by attackers."
                        Leslie Kirk
                        Miva Certified Developer
                        Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
                        Previously of Webs Your Way
                        (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

                        Email me: [email protected]
                        www.lesliekirk.com

                        Follow me: Twitter | Facebook | FourSquare | Pinterest | Flickr

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                          #13
                          I'd like to follow up on this (and may need to start a new thread). I have been going around in circles trying to figure out why early in the morning the site performance is fantastic but then later in the day I have seen the performance drop off to 25 (yes, twenty-five). I've opened a support ticket because I and the SEO team working on the site are concerned that it might be server-related. The support response noted that "slow routing between Google and Cloudflare could cause that flag" (the flag was for the Opportunity to reduce the initial server response time). The reply has left me scratching my head. I thought the whole point of using a CDN was to "provide fast delivery of Internet content". Why would it be slowing the site down?

                          So, with that said, is anyone else getting crappy Lighthouse results and are using Cloudflare? Do your results vary throughout the day? I've actually got someone who is going to perform tests throughout the day and track it for a week. Now I wonder if those same tests need to be performed with Cloudflare turned off.

                          Leslie Kirk
                          Miva Certified Developer
                          Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
                          Previously of Webs Your Way
                          (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

                          Email me: [email protected]
                          www.lesliekirk.com

                          Follow me: Twitter | Facebook | FourSquare | Pinterest | Flickr

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                            #14
                            Not sure if it relates to your issue, but the other day, while doing speed optimizations, I was doing Page Speed Metric along with GTmetrix testing. GT provides a 'waterfall' network connection view. I notice both reports occasionally reporting WAY out of line metrics...turns out it was due to a 'social media' aggregator script going from .36 ms to 2, 3 seconds.
                            Bruce Golub
                            Phosphor Media - "Your Success is our Business"

                            Improve Your Customer Service | Get MORE Customers | Edit CSS/Javascript/HTML Easily | Make Your Site Faster | Get Indexed by Google | Free Modules | Follow Us on Facebook
                            phosphormedia.com

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bruce - PhosphorMedia View Post
                              Not sure if it relates to your issue, but the other day, while doing speed optimizations, I was doing Page Speed Metric along with GTmetrix testing. GT provides a 'waterfall' network connection view. I notice both reports occasionally reporting WAY out of line metrics...turns out it was due to a 'social media' aggregator script going from .36 ms to 2, 3 seconds.
                              Do you have an example of the script? This site only seems to have the default links to social media but there may be something under the hood that I may have missed.
                              Leslie Kirk
                              Miva Certified Developer
                              Miva Merchant Specialist since 1997
                              Previously of Webs Your Way
                              (aka Leslie Nord leslienord)

                              Email me: [email protected]
                              www.lesliekirk.com

                              Follow me: Twitter | Facebook | FourSquare | Pinterest | Flickr

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