MM5 Released

MM5 Released



Hello Users,

Yes, it is fine to compare the features of MIVA Merchant 5 with v4.x on
this group.=20

We would prefer, though, that any in-depth discussion of MIVA Merchant
5, including troubleshooting topics and any discussions on related MIVA
Merchant 5 modules be limited to the MIVA Merchant 5 Users group list.
We don't want to bog-down existing or new v4.x users.

Thanks.

Jimmy
=20
Miva Corporation
A FindWhat.com, Inc. Company
NASDAQ: FWHT

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mivalist
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:48 AM
Cc: 'Miva User List'
Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released

I understand that but that doesn't prevent a discussion comparing the
two
versions on either list. Fortunately, others have seen the wisdom of
such a
discussion and have been willing to engage in it. You're still free to
abstain of course.

Dan
Impulse Creations

For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service visit us
at
www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Bill Gilligan
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:19 PM
To: 'mivalist'
Cc: 'Miva User List'
Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released

There is a reason there are two lists....
MM4.x will be around for a long time, and its support and sales needs to
remain here.
The MM5 list is the place to get info. Help, etc...

Bill


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Bill Gilligan
Gilligan On-Line
www.gilliganonline.com
850-233-8775

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mivalist
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:07 AM
> Cc: 'Miva User List'
> Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
>
> I will when and if I decide to upgrade. Until then, those who
> plan to make
> money from MM5 would benefit by taking some time to help sell
> it to existing
> MM4 users on this list.
>
> Dan
> Impulse Creations
>
> For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service
> visit us at
> www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
> discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> Bill Gilligan
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:02 AM
> To: 'mivalist'
> Cc: 'Miva User List'
> Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
>
> Join the MM5 list...
>
> =
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=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Bill Gilligan
> Gilligan On-Line
> www.gilliganonline.com
> 850-233-8775
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mivalist
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:56 AM
> > Cc: Miva User List
> > Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
> >
> > I'm still waiting for anyone to come forward and actually
> > talk specifics
> > about MM5 and to compare features with what's available in
> > MM4 with various
> > modules. What are the real improvements? What do you lose? I
> > asked about
> > this yesterday but got no responses.
> >
> > There was lots of hype about how incredible the new version
> > would be before
> > it was released and it seems to have been talked up quite a
> bit at the
> > conference last weekend. Now that it's out and no one can
> > just say, "Sorry.
> > Can't answer that. NDA." It seems that no one who's actually
> > used the new
> > version wants to talk about it.
> >
> > I'm sure many partners have simply been busy and I certainly
> > understand that
> > but it would be nice if at least a few of those who have been
> > hyping this
> > would take some time to discuss the real facts so the rest of
> > us can see
> > what the hype's based on.
> >
> > Dan
> > Impulse Creations
> >
> > For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service
> > visit us at
> > www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
> > discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> > Bill Guindon
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:40 AM
> > To: Leslie Nord - Webs Your Way
> > Cc: Jim Cockerham; Miva User List
> > Subject: Re: [mru] MM5 Released
> > Got your visa card handy?
> > <A HREF ="http://www.mivacentral.com/page/m/PROD/MIVA+MM+-x/MIVA-MERC000">http://www.mivacentral.com/page/m/PROD/MIVA+MM+-x/MIVA-MERC000</A>
> > 2_5/ref/mvdc
> >
> > >
> > > > Finally!,
> > > > We get to have a look ;)
> > > > I see they have a new look for the category pages, is
> > this the default
> > > > Merchant 5 category layout? I don't see any options. The
> > admin seems to
> > > > have about the same options as a stock version 4.x store.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > >

MM5 Released



Thanks for the clarification Jimmy. That's all I was ever looking for was an
opportunity to discuss the pluses and minuses of a potential upgrade.
There's no sense in me subscribing to another list right now when I don't
know for certain that I'll ever upgrade and certainly won't for some time
due to module availability and other issues.

Dan
Impulse Creations

For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service visit us at
www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!

-----Original Message-----
From: Miva User Group Support [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:52 PM
To: mivalist; Miva User List
Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released

Hello Users,

Yes, it is fine to compare the features of MIVA Merchant 5 with v4.x on
this group.

We would prefer, though, that any in-depth discussion of MIVA Merchant
5, including troubleshooting topics and any discussions on related MIVA
Merchant 5 modules be limited to the MIVA Merchant 5 Users group list.
We don't want to bog-down existing or new v4.x users.

Thanks.

Jimmy

Miva Corporation
A FindWhat.com, Inc. Company
NASDAQ: FWHT

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mivalist
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:48 AM
Cc: 'Miva User List'
Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released

I understand that but that doesn't prevent a discussion comparing the
two
versions on either list. Fortunately, others have seen the wisdom of
such a
discussion and have been willing to engage in it. You're still free to
abstain of course.

Dan
Impulse Creations

For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service visit us
at
www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Bill Gilligan
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:19 PM
To: 'mivalist'
Cc: 'Miva User List'
Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released

There is a reason there are two lists....
MM4.x will be around for a long time, and its support and sales needs to
remain here.
The MM5 list is the place to get info. Help, etc...

Bill


=============================
Bill Gilligan
Gilligan On-Line
www.gilliganonline.com
850-233-8775

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mivalist
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:07 AM
> Cc: 'Miva User List'
> Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
>
> I will when and if I decide to upgrade. Until then, those who
> plan to make
> money from MM5 would benefit by taking some time to help sell
> it to existing
> MM4 users on this list.
>
> Dan
> Impulse Creations
>
> For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service
> visit us at
> www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
> discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> Bill Gilligan
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:02 AM
> To: 'mivalist'
> Cc: 'Miva User List'
> Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
>
> Join the MM5 list...
>
> =============================
> Bill Gilligan
> Gilligan On-Line
> www.gilliganonline.com
> 850-233-8775
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mivalist
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:56 AM
> > Cc: Miva User List
> > Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
> >
> > I'm still waiting for anyone to come forward and actually
> > talk specifics
> > about MM5 and to compare features with what's available in
> > MM4 with various
> > modules. What are the real improvements? What do you lose? I
> > asked about
> > this yesterday but got no responses.
> >
> > There was lots of hype about how incredible the new version
> > would be before
> > it was released and it seems to have been talked up quite a
> bit at the
> > conference last weekend. Now that it's out and no one can
> > just say, "Sorry.
> > Can't answer that. NDA." It seems that no one who's actually
> > used the new
> > version wants to talk about it.
> >
> > I'm sure many partners have simply been busy and I certainly
> > understand that
> > but it would be nice if at least a few of those who have been
> > hyping this
> > would take some time to discuss the real facts so the rest of
> > us can see
> > what the hype's based on.
> >
> > Dan
> > Impulse Creations
> >
> > For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service
> > visit us at
> > www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
> > discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> > Bill Guindon
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:40 AM
> > To: Leslie Nord - Webs Your Way
> > Cc: Jim Cockerham; Miva User List
> > Subject: Re: [mru] MM5 Released
> > Got your visa card handy?
> > <A HREF ="http://www.mivacentral.com/page/m/PROD/MIVA+MM+-x/MIVA-MERC000">http://www.mivacentral.com/page/m/PROD/MIVA+MM+-x/MIVA-MERC000</A>
> > 2_5/ref/mvdc
> >
> > >
> > > > Finally!,
> > > > We get to have a look ;)
> > > > I see they have a new look for the category pages, is
> > this the default
> > > > Merchant 5 category layout? I don't see any options. The
> > admin seems to
> > > > have about the same options as a stock version 4.x store.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > >

MM5 Released



Dan,

Have you logged into the demo admin? You can see for yourself some
differences and decide whether they are better or worse without the OpenUI.
(worse in some cases)

Jason


> I've asked many times about conditionals but that couldn't be answered
until
> now. Can various screen elements appear or not appear based on the screen
> being viewed, logged in/out status, items in cart, etc.? Basically, how
much
> (if any) OUI functionality is lost in MM5. Everyone kept saying how great
it
> was going to be as OUI would be obsolete. Is it all true? Does MM5 do
> everything OUI did but better and faster? Is it all that and a bag of
chips?
>
> I pretty much assume that any MM4 modules that currently exist will either
> be made available for MM5 or won't be needed due to new MM features so I
> don't expect that to really be an issue before long. The real question is,
> what could you do with MM4 that you can't do with MM5? Is there anything?
>
> Dan
> Impulse Creations
>
> For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service visit us at
> www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
> discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Chuck Lasker -
> DoublePlus
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:02 AM
> To: 'Miva User List'
> Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
>
> There's not much to say beyond what Miva has put out. It's all there. The
> admin demo, the screen shots, the explanations. If it's not there, it's
not
> in MM5. With 2000+ modules available for MM4, and a whopping 50 or so
> modules available for MM5, a point by point comparison is just not
> practical.
>
> Do you have specific functionality questions?
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mivalist
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:56 AM
> > Cc: Miva User List
> > Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
> >
> > I'm still waiting for anyone to come forward and actually
> > talk specifics
> > about MM5 and to compare features with what's available in
> > MM4 with various
> > modules. What are the real improvements? What do you lose? I
> > asked about
> > this yesterday but got no responses.
> >
> > There was lots of hype about how incredible the new version
> > would be before
> > it was released and it seems to have been talked up quite a bit at the
> > conference last weekend. Now that it's out and no one can
> > just say, "Sorry.
> > Can't answer that. NDA." It seems that no one who's actually
> > used the new
> > version wants to talk about it.
> >
> > I'm sure many partners have simply been busy and I certainly
> > understand that
> > but it would be nice if at least a few of those who have been
> > hyping this
> > would take some time to discuss the real facts so the rest of
> > us can see
> > what the hype's based on.
> >
> > Dan
> > Impulse Creations
> >
> > For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service
> > visit us at
> > www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
> > discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> > Bill Guindon
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:40 AM
> > To: Leslie Nord - Webs Your Way
> > Cc: Jim Cockerham; Miva User List
> > Subject: Re: [mru] MM5 Released
> > Got your visa card handy?
> > <A HREF ="http://www.mivacentral.com/page/m/PROD/MIVA+MM+-x/MIVA-MERC000">http://www.mivacentral.com/page/m/PROD/MIVA+MM+-x/MIVA-MERC000</A>
> 2_5/ref/mvdc
> >
> > >
> > > > Finally!,
> > > > We get to have a look ;)
> > > > I see they have a new look for the category pages, is
> > this the default
> > > > Merchant 5 category layout? I don't see any options. The
> > admin seems to
> > > > have about the same options as a stock version 4.x store.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > >

MM5 Released



I haven't yet but I definitely will when I manage to free up some time for a
more in depth look. I just wanted to get an idea of what to expect from
those who have already tested it out extensively to see if anything came up
that would rule out an upgrade for me. That hasn't happened yet so I'll
continue to look into it further.

Thanks,
Dan
Impulse Creations

For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service visit us at
www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jason Henderson
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:53 PM
To: mivalist; 'Miva User List'
Subject: Re: [mru] MM5 Released

Dan,

Have you logged into the demo admin? You can see for yourself some
differences and decide whether they are better or worse without the OpenUI.
(worse in some cases)

Jason


> I've asked many times about conditionals but that couldn't be answered
until
> now. Can various screen elements appear or not appear based on the screen
> being viewed, logged in/out status, items in cart, etc.? Basically, how
much
> (if any) OUI functionality is lost in MM5. Everyone kept saying how great
it
> was going to be as OUI would be obsolete. Is it all true? Does MM5 do
> everything OUI did but better and faster? Is it all that and a bag of
chips?
>
> I pretty much assume that any MM4 modules that currently exist will either
> be made available for MM5 or won't be needed due to new MM features so I
> don't expect that to really be an issue before long. The real question is,
> what could you do with MM4 that you can't do with MM5? Is there anything?
>
> Dan
> Impulse Creations
>
> For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service visit us at
> www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
> discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Chuck Lasker -
> DoublePlus
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:02 AM
> To: 'Miva User List'
> Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
>
> There's not much to say beyond what Miva has put out. It's all there. The
> admin demo, the screen shots, the explanations. If it's not there, it's
not
> in MM5. With 2000+ modules available for MM4, and a whopping 50 or so
> modules available for MM5, a point by point comparison is just not
> practical.
>
> Do you have specific functionality questions?
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mivalist
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:56 AM
> > Cc: Miva User List
> > Subject: RE: [mru] MM5 Released
> >
> > I'm still waiting for anyone to come forward and actually
> > talk specifics
> > about MM5 and to compare features with what's available in
> > MM4 with various
> > modules. What are the real improvements? What do you lose? I
> > asked about
> > this yesterday but got no responses.
> >
> > There was lots of hype about how incredible the new version
> > would be before
> > it was released and it seems to have been talked up quite a bit at the
> > conference last weekend. Now that it's out and no one can
> > just say, "Sorry.
> > Can't answer that. NDA." It seems that no one who's actually
> > used the new
> > version wants to talk about it.
> >
> > I'm sure many partners have simply been busy and I certainly
> > understand that
> > but it would be nice if at least a few of those who have been
> > hyping this
> > would take some time to discuss the real facts so the rest of
> > us can see
> > what the hype's based on.
> >
> > Dan
> > Impulse Creations
> >
> > For low priced back issue comics and the very best in service
> > visit us at
> > www.impulsecreations.net and be sure to look for information on our
> > discounted subscription service with free bags and free shipping!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> > Bill Guindon
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:40 AM
> > To: Leslie Nord - Webs Your Way
> > Cc: Jim Cockerham; Miva User List
> > Subject: Re: [mru] MM5 Released
> > Got your visa card handy?
> > <A HREF ="http://www.mivacentral.com/page/m/PROD/MIVA+MM+-x/MIVA-MERC000">http://www.mivacentral.com/page/m/PROD/MIVA+MM+-x/MIVA-MERC000</A>
> 2_5/ref/mvdc
> >
> > >
> > > > Finally!,
> > > > We get to have a look ;)
> > > > I see they have a new look for the category pages, is
> > this the default
> > > > Merchant 5 category layout? I don't see any options. The
> > admin seems to
> > > > have about the same options as a stock version 4.x store.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > >