Address 2 in MM5?

Address 2 in MM5?



Wow, our fist Off Topic thread on the MIVA Merchant 5 Users group.=20

Ok, now time to get back on topic. :)

Thanks everyone.


Jimmy
=20
Miva Corporation
A FindWhat.com, Inc. Company
NASDAQ: FWHT

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of WolfPaw
Computers - Miva List
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:40 PM
To: 'Tim Traver'; 'Nerd Boy Help Desk'
Cc: 'Wil Hatfield'; 'Kelly XR'; [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: RE: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?

I preferred Rogue :)

Ah yes, the days of "CLOAD ...."

I had at one point, a TRS-80 Model 1, and a Model 3. Although I loved
the TI-99 for what it was worth.

-Vic

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]=20
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of=20
> Tim Traver
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:34 PM
> To: Nerd Boy Help Desk
> Cc: Wil Hatfield; Kelly XR; [email protected];=20
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>=20
>=20
> oh come on guys (and gals)...
>=20
> Did no one here take the TRS-80 as far as it could go ???
>=20
> I still remember taking 30 tries to load a 2K program from a tape=20
> recorder, and Adventure was the greatest game ever...
>=20
> t
>=20
>=20
> Nerd Boy Help Desk wrote:
>=20
> > Dear Wil,
> >
> > Which on the Pet or one after that? I have been around since
> > around Commodore Pet days with the Chiclets Keys.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Nerd Boy
> >
> > 1-573-292-1136
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyinc.com">http://www.nerdboyinc.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.doyoureallycare.com">http://www.doyoureallycare.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nbicentral.com">http://www.nbicentral.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.crosstowntraffic.net">http://www.crosstowntraffic.net</A>
> > Your alternative source for Miva Merchant Modules
> >
> > For Customer Service and Support:
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nbisupport.com">http://www.nbisupport.com</A>
> > or send email to: [email protected]
> >
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyproductions.com">http://www.nerdboyproductions.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.asmallurl.com">http://www.asmallurl.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nbiracing.com">http://www.nbiracing.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.yourlottosite.com">http://www.yourlottosite.com</A>
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wil Hatfield"
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: "Kelly XR" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> > Cc: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:22 PM
> > Subject: RE: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
> >
> >
> >> I still have a Commodore Business Machine I am waiting to=20
> submit to=20
> >> the Smithsonian. Mint condition..... gimme a price? Still=20
> boots too.=20
> >> Whenever I think my workstation is running slow and I am ready to=20
> >> take a hammer to it
> >> I just go out and plug that baby in and feel much better about my=20
> >> station.
> >>
> >>
> >> Wil Hatfield
> >> HyperConX Customer Care
> >>
> >> HyperConX International - <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com=20">http://www.hyperconx.com=20</A>
> 1.800.894.3613 -=20
> >> Toll Free in the US and Canada
> >>
> >> Check out the all new Miva Pages: <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/">http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/</A>
> >>
> >> Premium e-commerce hosting, 24/7 technical support, toll=20
> free support=20
> >> lines for your convenience, great low cost packages to=20
> choose from,=20
> >> Authorize.Net Direct retailer, need high-speed=20
> connectivity well we=20
> >> have that too. Everything a business needs to succeed.=20
> Host with the=20
> >> Pros and sell like one too!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf=20
> Of Kelly XR
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:57 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
> >>
> >>
> >> hmm.. .actually dreamweaver kinda sucked until they bought out=20
> >> Allaire and it's homesite software.. which of course required=20
> >> Windows... Hail Bill Gates! Gee I miss cpm.
> >>
> >> Kelly
> >>
> >> Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
> >>
> >>> True. And Dreamweaver wouldn't exist without Windows, so let's=20
> >>> credit Microsoft for that great HTML editor software!
> >>>
> >>> Piles of third party modules replaced by OUI! Just=20
> millions of em!=20
> >>> Developers going bankrupt! Dogs and cats living=20
> together!! Darren is=20
> >>> the devil!
> >>>
> >>> But Miva is a progressive, fantastic company for=20
> absorbing template
> >>> modules
> >>> and a hundred other third party module functionality! Long live=20
> >>> hypocrisy!
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, that's all I'll say on the subject. I've wasted=20
> enough time
> >>> on this
> >>> argument and the small but vocal anti-Darren faction=20
> never budges...=20
> >>> the
> >>> rest of us know where the ideas came from...
> >>>
> >>> To give this post a valid list purpose, I'll mention that the Add
> >>> and Add+
> >>> feature in the cats and prods is the coolest, and totally=20
> original!
> >>>
> >>> Chuck
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On=20
> Behalf Of Scot=20
> >>>> Ranney
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:14 PM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
> >>>>
> >>>> You have got to be kidding. It's like politics where=20
> people talk=20
> >>>> about what they hear instead of what they know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Without all the hard work that the folks at Miva Corp=20
> did, Darren=20
> >>>> would never have been able to use the Miva Merchant=20
> source code to
> >>>> make OpenUI
> >>>> in the first place.
> >>>>
> >>>> Huh?
> >>>>
> >>>> OpenUI was originally just a copy of Miva Corp's source=20
> code. The=20
> >>>> only difference being hook points and variable name=20
> changes. Yeah,=20
> >>>> it was cool and helpful, but even back then Miva Corp had the=20
> >>>> foundation for the template customization system Merchant 5=20
> >>>> advertises. Implementation
> >>>> of that system just took longer than I expected.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have to laugh when I see messages like "Miva Merchant=20
> 5 is taking=20
> >>>> Darren's ideas."
> >>>>
> >>>> Darren is no angel when it comes to taking other=20
> people's ideas. =20
> >>>> As time went on, he rendered a whole pile of popular modules=20
> >>>> useless by integrating their functionality into OpenUI=20
> (something=20
> >>>> he repeatedly said he would not do).
> >>>>
> >>>> There's a good chance that many of the "ideas" Merchant 5 is=20
> >>>> "absorbing" are originally from 3rd party modules that were=20
> >>>> absorbed into OpenUI in
> >>>> the first place.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> That's sad... let's have a moment of silence for Darren
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> and all of his
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> hard work and ideas that got absorbed into Miva Merchant 5.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On May 4, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Another great OpenUI feature integrated
> >>>>>> into MM5!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> ------------
> >>>>
> >>>> "To The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States,=20
> >>>> Resist much, obey little; Once unquestioning obedience,=20
> once fully=20
> >>>> enslaved; Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this=20
> >>>> earth, ever afterward resumes its liberty."
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Walt Whitman
> >>>>
> >>>>

Re[2]: Address 2 in MM5?



Hello WolfPaw,

Hey, I had one of those. It was my 'replacement' for my TRaSh-80
Model 0ne with expansion bay that I had converted to CP/M. I wonder
what happened to that darn thing. My calculator is more powerful
now.

Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 11:38:30 PM, you wrote:

WCML> I still remember one of the first "laptops", the TRS-100 from Radio
WCML> Shack.


--
Best regards,
Bill mailto:[email protected]

Address 2 in MM5?



I preferred Rogue :)

Ah yes, the days of "CLOAD ...."

I had at one point, a TRS-80 Model 1, and a Model 3. Although I loved
the TI-99 for what it was worth.

-Vic

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Tim Traver
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:34 PM
> To: Nerd Boy Help Desk
> Cc: Wil Hatfield; Kelly XR; [email protected];
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>
>
> oh come on guys (and gals)...
>
> Did no one here take the TRS-80 as far as it could go ???
>
> I still remember taking 30 tries to load a 2K program from a tape
> recorder, and Adventure was the greatest game ever...
>
> t
>
>
> Nerd Boy Help Desk wrote:
>
> > Dear Wil,
> >
> > Which on the Pet or one after that? I have been around since
> > around Commodore Pet days with the Chiclets Keys.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Nerd Boy
> >
> > 1-573-292-1136
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyinc.com">http://www.nerdboyinc.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.doyoureallycare.com">http://www.doyoureallycare.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nbicentral.com">http://www.nbicentral.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.crosstowntraffic.net">http://www.crosstowntraffic.net</A>
> > Your alternative source for Miva Merchant Modules
> >
> > For Customer Service and Support:
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nbisupport.com">http://www.nbisupport.com</A>
> > or send email to: [email protected]
> >
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyproductions.com">http://www.nerdboyproductions.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.asmallurl.com">http://www.asmallurl.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.nbiracing.com">http://www.nbiracing.com</A>
> > <A HREF ="http://www.yourlottosite.com">http://www.yourlottosite.com</A>
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wil Hatfield"
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: "Kelly XR" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> > Cc: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:22 PM
> > Subject: RE: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
> >
> >
> >> I still have a Commodore Business Machine I am waiting to
> submit to
> >> the Smithsonian. Mint condition..... gimme a price? Still
> boots too.
> >> Whenever I think my workstation is running slow and I am ready to
> >> take a hammer to it
> >> I just go out and plug that baby in and feel much better about my
> >> station.
> >>
> >>
> >> Wil Hatfield
> >> HyperConX Customer Care
> >>
> >> HyperConX International - <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com ">http://www.hyperconx.com </A>
> 1.800.894.3613 -
> >> Toll Free in the US and Canada
> >>
> >> Check out the all new Miva Pages: <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/">http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/</A>
> >>
> >> Premium e-commerce hosting, 24/7 technical support, toll
> free support
> >> lines for your convenience, great low cost packages to
> choose from,
> >> Authorize.Net Direct retailer, need high-speed
> connectivity well we
> >> have that too. Everything a business needs to succeed.
> Host with the
> >> Pros and sell like one too!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf
> Of Kelly XR
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:57 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
> >>
> >>
> >> hmm.. .actually dreamweaver kinda sucked until they bought out
> >> Allaire and it's homesite software.. which of course required
> >> Windows... Hail Bill Gates! Gee I miss cpm.
> >>
> >> Kelly
> >>
> >> Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
> >>
> >>> True. And Dreamweaver wouldn't exist without Windows, so let's
> >>> credit Microsoft for that great HTML editor software!
> >>>
> >>> Piles of third party modules replaced by OUI! Just
> millions of em!
> >>> Developers going bankrupt! Dogs and cats living
> together!! Darren is
> >>> the devil!
> >>>
> >>> But Miva is a progressive, fantastic company for
> absorbing template
> >>> modules
> >>> and a hundred other third party module functionality! Long live
> >>> hypocrisy!
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, that's all I'll say on the subject. I've wasted
> enough time
> >>> on this
> >>> argument and the small but vocal anti-Darren faction
> never budges...
> >>> the
> >>> rest of us know where the ideas came from...
> >>>
> >>> To give this post a valid list purpose, I'll mention that the Add
> >>> and Add+
> >>> feature in the cats and prods is the coolest, and totally
> original!
> >>>
> >>> Chuck
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Scot
> >>>> Ranney
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:14 PM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
> >>>>
> >>>> You have got to be kidding. It's like politics where
> people talk
> >>>> about what they hear instead of what they know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Without all the hard work that the folks at Miva Corp
> did, Darren
> >>>> would never have been able to use the Miva Merchant
> source code to
> >>>> make OpenUI
> >>>> in the first place.
> >>>>
> >>>> Huh?
> >>>>
> >>>> OpenUI was originally just a copy of Miva Corp's source
> code. The
> >>>> only difference being hook points and variable name
> changes. Yeah,
> >>>> it was cool and helpful, but even back then Miva Corp had the
> >>>> foundation for the template customization system Merchant 5
> >>>> advertises. Implementation
> >>>> of that system just took longer than I expected.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have to laugh when I see messages like "Miva Merchant
> 5 is taking
> >>>> Darren's ideas."
> >>>>
> >>>> Darren is no angel when it comes to taking other
> people's ideas.
> >>>> As time went on, he rendered a whole pile of popular modules
> >>>> useless by integrating their functionality into OpenUI
> (something
> >>>> he repeatedly said he would not do).
> >>>>
> >>>> There's a good chance that many of the "ideas" Merchant 5 is
> >>>> "absorbing" are originally from 3rd party modules that were
> >>>> absorbed into OpenUI in
> >>>> the first place.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> That's sad... let's have a moment of silence for Darren
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> and all of his
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> hard work and ideas that got absorbed into Miva Merchant 5.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On May 4, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Another great OpenUI feature integrated
> >>>>>> into MM5!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> ------------
> >>>>
> >>>> "To The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States,
> >>>> Resist much, obey little; Once unquestioning obedience,
> once fully
> >>>> enslaved; Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this
> >>>> earth, ever afterward resumes its liberty."
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Walt Whitman
> >>>>
> >>>>

Address 2 in MM5?



Sure there was.

The DEC PDP11/54 running REXX. :)

I still remember one of the first "laptops", the TRS-100 from Radio
Shack.

Vic Vega
WolfPaw Computers
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Wil Hatfield
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:51 PM
> To: Nerd Boy Help Desk; Kelly XR; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>
>
> My dad and I were working with Commodore getting the speed up
> and glitches out of their address bus controllers. We were
> given 4 of those big arsh wheel barrel sized business
> machines as they called them then. That was about 2 years
> before the Vic 20 so I am guessing it was about 1980. I
> don't remember the Pet though so it must have been before or
> after. But their wasn't alot before except the Heath Kit.
>
>
> Wil Hatfield
> HyperConX Customer Care
>
> HyperConX International - <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com ">http://www.hyperconx.com </A>
> 1.800.894.3613 - Toll Free in the US and Canada
>
> Check out the all new Miva Pages: <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/">http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/</A>
>
> Premium e-commerce hosting, 24/7 technical support, toll free
> support lines for your convenience, great low cost packages
> to choose from, Authorize.Net Direct retailer, need
> high-speed connectivity well we have that too. Everything a
> business needs to succeed. Host with the Pros and sell like one too!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nerd Boy Help Desk [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:06 PM
> To: Wil Hatfield; Kelly XR; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>
>
> Dear Wil,
>
> Which on the Pet or one after that? I have been around
> since around Commodore Pet days with the Chiclets Keys.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Nerd Boy
>
> 1-573-292-1136
> <A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyinc.com">http://www.nerdboyinc.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.doyoureallycare.com">http://www.doyoureallycare.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.nbicentral.com">http://www.nbicentral.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.crosstowntraffic.net">http://www.crosstowntraffic.net</A>
> Your alternative source for Miva Merchant Modules
>
> For Customer Service and Support:
> <A HREF ="http://www.nbisupport.com">http://www.nbisupport.com</A>
> or send email to: [email protected]
>
> <A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyproductions.com">http://www.nerdboyproductions.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.asmallurl.com">http://www.asmallurl.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.nbiracing.com">http://www.nbiracing.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.yourlottosite.com">http://www.yourlottosite.com</A>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wil Hatfield" <[email protected]>
> To: "Kelly XR" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>
>
> >I still have a Commodore Business Machine I am waiting to
> submit to the
> >Smithsonian. Mint condition..... gimme a price? Still boots too.
> >Whenever I think my workstation is running slow and I am
> ready to take
> >a hammer to it
> > I just go out and plug that baby in and feel much better
> about my station.
> >
> >
> > Wil Hatfield
> > HyperConX Customer Care
> >
> > HyperConX International - <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com 1.800.894.3613 - ">http://www.hyperconx.com 1.800.894.3613 - </A>
> > Toll Free in the US and Canada
> >
> > Check out the all new Miva Pages: <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/">http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/</A>
> >
> > Premium e-commerce hosting, 24/7 technical support, toll
> free support
> > lines for your convenience, great low cost packages to choose from,
> > Authorize.Net Direct retailer, need high-speed connectivity well we
> > have that too. Everything a business needs to succeed. Host
> with the
> > Pros and sell like one too!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Kelly XR
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:57 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
> >
> >
> > hmm.. .actually dreamweaver kinda sucked until they bought
> out Allaire
> > and it's homesite software.. which of course required
> Windows... Hail
> > Bill Gates! Gee I miss cpm.
> >
> > Kelly
> >
> > Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
> >
> >>True. And Dreamweaver wouldn't exist without Windows, so
> let's credit
> >>Microsoft for that great HTML editor software!
> >>
> >>Piles of third party modules replaced by OUI! Just millions of em!
> >>Developers going bankrupt! Dogs and cats living together!!
> Darren is
> >>the devil!
> >>
> >>But Miva is a progressive, fantastic company for absorbing template
> >>modules and a hundred other third party module functionality! Long
> >>live hypocrisy!
> >>
> >>Anyway, that's all I'll say on the subject. I've wasted
> enough time on
> >>this argument and the small but vocal anti-Darren faction never
> >>budges... the rest of us know where the ideas came from...
> >>
> >>To give this post a valid list purpose, I'll mention that
> the Add and
> >>Add+ feature in the cats and prods is the coolest, and totally
> >>original!
> >>
> >>Chuck
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [email protected]
> >>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scot
> >>>Ranney
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:14 PM
> >>>To: [email protected]
> >>>Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
> >>>
> >>>You have got to be kidding. It's like politics where people talk
> >>>about what they hear instead of what they know.
> >>>
> >>>Without all the hard work that the folks at Miva Corp did, Darren
> >>>would never have been able to use the Miva Merchant source code to
> >>>make OpenUI
> >>>in the first place.
> >>>
> >>>Huh?
> >>>
> >>>OpenUI was originally just a copy of Miva Corp's source code. The
> >>>only difference being hook points and variable name
> changes. Yeah,
> >>>it was cool and helpful, but even back then Miva Corp had the
> >>>foundation for the template customization system Merchant 5
> >>>advertises. Implementation
> >>>of that system just took longer than I expected.
> >>>
> >>>I have to laugh when I see messages like "Miva Merchant 5
> is taking
> >>>Darren's ideas."
> >>>
> >>>Darren is no angel when it comes to taking other people's
> ideas. As
> >>>time went on, he rendered a whole pile of popular modules
> useless by
> >>>integrating their functionality into OpenUI (something he
> repeatedly
> >>>said he would not do).
> >>>
> >>>There's a good chance that many of the "ideas" Merchant 5 is
> >>>"absorbing" are originally from 3rd party modules that
> were absorbed
> >>>into OpenUI in
> >>>the first place.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>[email protected] wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>That's sad... let's have a moment of silence for Darren
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>and all of his
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>hard work and ideas that got absorbed into Miva Merchant 5.
> >>>>
> >>>>On May 4, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Another great OpenUI feature integrated
> >>>>>into MM5!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>--
> >>>------------
> >>>
> >>>"To The States, or any one of them, or any city of The
> States, Resist
> >>>much, obey little; Once unquestioning obedience, once
> fully enslaved;
> >>>Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this earth,
> >>>ever afterward resumes its liberty."
> >>>
> >>>~Walt Whitman
> >>>
> >>>

Address 2 in MM5?



oh come on guys (and gals)...

Did no one here take the TRS-80 as far as it could go ???

I still remember taking 30 tries to load a 2K program from a tape
recorder, and Adventure was the greatest game ever...

t


Nerd Boy Help Desk wrote:

> Dear Wil,
>
> Which on the Pet or one after that? I have been around since
> around Commodore Pet days with the Chiclets Keys.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Nerd Boy
>
> 1-573-292-1136
> <A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyinc.com">http://www.nerdboyinc.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.doyoureallycare.com">http://www.doyoureallycare.com</A>
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> <A HREF ="http://www.crosstowntraffic.net">http://www.crosstowntraffic.net</A>
> Your alternative source for Miva Merchant Modules
>
> For Customer Service and Support:
> <A HREF ="http://www.nbisupport.com">http://www.nbisupport.com</A>
> or send email to: [email protected]
>
> <A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyproductions.com">http://www.nerdboyproductions.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.asmallurl.com">http://www.asmallurl.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.nbiracing.com">http://www.nbiracing.com</A>
> <A HREF ="http://www.yourlottosite.com">http://www.yourlottosite.com</A>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wil Hatfield"
> <[email protected]>
> To: "Kelly XR" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>
>
>> I still have a Commodore Business Machine I am waiting to submit to the
>> Smithsonian. Mint condition..... gimme a price? Still boots too.
>> Whenever
>> I think my workstation is running slow and I am ready to take a
>> hammer to it
>> I just go out and plug that baby in and feel much better about my
>> station.
>>
>>
>> Wil Hatfield
>> HyperConX Customer Care
>>
>> HyperConX International - <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com">http://www.hyperconx.com</A>
>> 1.800.894.3613 - Toll Free in the US and Canada
>>
>> Check out the all new Miva Pages:
>> <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/">http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/</A>
>>
>> Premium e-commerce hosting, 24/7 technical support, toll free
>> support lines for your convenience, great low cost packages to
>> choose from, Authorize.Net Direct retailer, need high-speed
>> connectivity well we have that too. Everything a business
>> needs to succeed. Host with the Pros and sell like one too!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Kelly XR
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:57 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>>
>>
>> hmm.. .actually dreamweaver kinda sucked until they bought out Allaire
>> and it's homesite software..
>> which of course required Windows... Hail Bill Gates!
>> Gee I miss cpm.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>> Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
>>
>>> True. And Dreamweaver wouldn't exist without Windows, so let's credit
>>> Microsoft for that great HTML editor software!
>>>
>>> Piles of third party modules replaced by OUI! Just millions of em!
>>> Developers going bankrupt! Dogs and cats living together!! Darren is
>>> the
>>> devil!
>>>
>>> But Miva is a progressive, fantastic company for absorbing template
>>> modules
>>> and a hundred other third party module functionality! Long live
>>> hypocrisy!
>>>
>>> Anyway, that's all I'll say on the subject. I've wasted enough time
>>> on this
>>> argument and the small but vocal anti-Darren faction never budges...
>>> the
>>> rest of us know where the ideas came from...
>>>
>>> To give this post a valid list purpose, I'll mention that the Add
>>> and Add+
>>> feature in the cats and prods is the coolest, and totally original!
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>> Scot Ranney
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:14 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>>>>
>>>> You have got to be kidding. It's like politics where people
>>>> talk about
>>>> what they hear instead of what they know.
>>>>
>>>> Without all the hard work that the folks at Miva Corp did,
>>>> Darren would
>>>> never have been able to use the Miva Merchant source code to
>>>> make OpenUI
>>>> in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> Huh?
>>>>
>>>> OpenUI was originally just a copy of Miva Corp's source code.
>>>> The only
>>>> difference being hook points and variable name changes. Yeah, it was
>>>> cool and helpful, but even back then Miva Corp had the foundation for
>>>> the template customization system Merchant 5 advertises.
>>>> Implementation
>>>> of that system just took longer than I expected.
>>>>
>>>> I have to laugh when I see messages like "Miva Merchant 5 is taking
>>>> Darren's ideas."
>>>>
>>>> Darren is no angel when it comes to taking other people's ideas. As
>>>> time went on, he rendered a whole pile of popular modules useless by
>>>> integrating their functionality into OpenUI (something he repeatedly
>>>> said he would not do).
>>>>
>>>> There's a good chance that many of the "ideas" Merchant 5 is
>>>> "absorbing"
>>>> are originally from 3rd party modules that were absorbed into
>>>> OpenUI in
>>>> the first place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That's sad... let's have a moment of silence for Darren
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and all of his
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hard work and ideas that got absorbed into Miva Merchant 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 4, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another great OpenUI feature integrated
>>>>>> into MM5!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ------------
>>>>
>>>> "To The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States,
>>>> Resist much, obey little;
>>>> Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved;
>>>> Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this earth,
>>>> ever afterward resumes its liberty."
>>>>
>>>> ~Walt Whitman
>>>>
>>>>

Address 2 in MM5?



My dad and I were working with Commodore getting the speed up and glitches
out of their address bus controllers. We were given 4 of those big arsh
wheel barrel sized business machines as they called them then. That was
about 2 years before the Vic 20 so I am guessing it was about 1980. I don't
remember the Pet though so it must have been before or after. But their
wasn't alot before except the Heath Kit.


Wil Hatfield
HyperConX Customer Care

HyperConX International - <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com">http://www.hyperconx.com</A>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nerd Boy Help Desk [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:06 PM
To: Wil Hatfield; Kelly XR; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?


Dear Wil,

Which on the Pet or one after that? I have been around since around
Commodore Pet days with the Chiclets Keys.

Thank you,

Nerd Boy

1-573-292-1136
<A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyinc.com">http://www.nerdboyinc.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.doyoureallycare.com">http://www.doyoureallycare.com</A>
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<A HREF ="http://www.crosstowntraffic.net">http://www.crosstowntraffic.net</A>
Your alternative source for Miva Merchant Modules

For Customer Service and Support:
<A HREF ="http://www.nbisupport.com">http://www.nbisupport.com</A>
or send email to: [email protected]

<A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyproductions.com">http://www.nerdboyproductions.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.asmallurl.com">http://www.asmallurl.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.nbiracing.com">http://www.nbiracing.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.yourlottosite.com">http://www.yourlottosite.com</A>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wil Hatfield" <[email protected]>
To: "Kelly XR" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?


>I still have a Commodore Business Machine I am waiting to submit to the
> Smithsonian. Mint condition..... gimme a price? Still boots too.
> Whenever
> I think my workstation is running slow and I am ready to take a hammer to
> it
> I just go out and plug that baby in and feel much better about my station.
>
>
> Wil Hatfield
> HyperConX Customer Care
>
> HyperConX International - <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com">http://www.hyperconx.com</A>
> 1.800.894.3613 - Toll Free in the US and Canada
>
> Check out the all new Miva Pages:
> <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/">http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/</A>
>
> Premium e-commerce hosting, 24/7 technical support, toll free
> support lines for your convenience, great low cost packages to
> choose from, Authorize.Net Direct retailer, need high-speed
> connectivity well we have that too. Everything a business
> needs to succeed. Host with the Pros and sell like one too!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Kelly XR
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>
>
> hmm.. .actually dreamweaver kinda sucked until they bought out Allaire
> and it's homesite software..
> which of course required Windows... Hail Bill Gates!
> Gee I miss cpm.
>
> Kelly
>
> Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
>
>>True. And Dreamweaver wouldn't exist without Windows, so let's credit
>>Microsoft for that great HTML editor software!
>>
>>Piles of third party modules replaced by OUI! Just millions of em!
>>Developers going bankrupt! Dogs and cats living together!! Darren is the
>>devil!
>>
>>But Miva is a progressive, fantastic company for absorbing template
>>modules
>>and a hundred other third party module functionality! Long live hypocrisy!
>>
>>Anyway, that's all I'll say on the subject. I've wasted enough time on
>>this
>>argument and the small but vocal anti-Darren faction never budges... the
>>rest of us know where the ideas came from...
>>
>>To give this post a valid list purpose, I'll mention that the Add and Add+
>>feature in the cats and prods is the coolest, and totally original!
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected]
>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>Scot Ranney
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:14 PM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>>>
>>>You have got to be kidding. It's like politics where people
>>>talk about
>>>what they hear instead of what they know.
>>>
>>>Without all the hard work that the folks at Miva Corp did,
>>>Darren would
>>>never have been able to use the Miva Merchant source code to
>>>make OpenUI
>>>in the first place.
>>>
>>>Huh?
>>>
>>>OpenUI was originally just a copy of Miva Corp's source code.
>>>The only
>>>difference being hook points and variable name changes. Yeah, it was
>>>cool and helpful, but even back then Miva Corp had the foundation for
>>>the template customization system Merchant 5 advertises.
>>>Implementation
>>>of that system just took longer than I expected.
>>>
>>>I have to laugh when I see messages like "Miva Merchant 5 is taking
>>>Darren's ideas."
>>>
>>>Darren is no angel when it comes to taking other people's ideas. As
>>>time went on, he rendered a whole pile of popular modules useless by
>>>integrating their functionality into OpenUI (something he repeatedly
>>>said he would not do).
>>>
>>>There's a good chance that many of the "ideas" Merchant 5 is
>>>"absorbing"
>>>are originally from 3rd party modules that were absorbed into
>>>OpenUI in
>>>the first place.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's sad... let's have a moment of silence for Darren
>>>>
>>>>
>>>and all of his
>>>
>>>
>>>>hard work and ideas that got absorbed into Miva Merchant 5.
>>>>
>>>>On May 4, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Another great OpenUI feature integrated
>>>>>into MM5!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>------------
>>>
>>>"To The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States,
>>>Resist much, obey little;
>>>Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved;
>>>Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this earth,
>>>ever afterward resumes its liberty."
>>>
>>>~Walt Whitman
>>>
>>>

Address 2 in MM5?



Dear Bill,

You cannot go forward unless you know where you came from. :)

Thank you,

Nerd Boy

1-573-292-1136
<A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyinc.com">http://www.nerdboyinc.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.doyoureallycare.com">http://www.doyoureallycare.com</A>
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<A HREF ="http://www.crosstowntraffic.net">http://www.crosstowntraffic.net</A>
Your alternative source for Miva Merchant Modules

For Customer Service and Support:
<A HREF ="http://www.nbisupport.com">http://www.nbisupport.com</A>
or send email to: [email protected]

<A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyproductions.com">http://www.nerdboyproductions.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.asmallurl.com">http://www.asmallurl.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.nbiracing.com">http://www.nbiracing.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.yourlottosite.com">http://www.yourlottosite.com</A>

----- Original Message -----
From: "William Weiland" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?


> Nerd Boy Help Desk wrote:
>> Dear Wil,
>>
>> Which on the Pet or one after that? I have been around since around
>> Commodore Pet days with the Chiclets Keys.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Nerd Boy
>
> You old folks quit digging up the past and focus on the future. The
> past is on the merchant-users list. This is the merchant5-users list.
>:-)
>
> --
> Bill Weiland A2Z Emporium Plus <A HREF ="http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc ">http://www.emporiumplus.com/store.mvc </A>
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> |
>
>

Address 2 in MM5?



Dear Dan,

I have a SX-64 which is portable Commodore 64 with built in 5 inch color
monitor, still works. So does the Commodore 128 and the Timex Sinclair 1000
out in the original box it came in.

First micro was the IMSAI 8080. We had to toggle in a program on the
toggle switches to load BASIC in off of cassette. That was of course after
we wrote our OS that fit into 1K of RAM.

Thank you,

Nerd Boy

1-573-292-1136
<A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyinc.com">http://www.nerdboyinc.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.doyoureallycare.com">http://www.doyoureallycare.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.nbicentral.com">http://www.nbicentral.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.crosstowntraffic.net">http://www.crosstowntraffic.net</A>
Your alternative source for Miva Merchant Modules

For Customer Service and Support:
<A HREF ="http://www.nbisupport.com">http://www.nbisupport.com</A>
or send email to: [email protected]

<A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyproductions.com">http://www.nerdboyproductions.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.asmallurl.com">http://www.asmallurl.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.nbiracing.com">http://www.nbiracing.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.yourlottosite.com">http://www.yourlottosite.com</A>

----- Original Message -----
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?


> Kelly,
>
> You destroyed an original Apple? Did it have a wood case? A TI-4A,
> a 150 baud modem, a zenith heathkit 8080 and a vic 20! Man, thats
> old school! Before my time... :)
>
> On May 4, 2005, at 5:13 PM, Kelly XR wrote:
>
>> I can beat that! TI-4A.. AND *drum roll please* I have the cassette
>> recorder, a 150 baud modem, AND the voice box....it talks!
>> I can't find a phone that will fit on the cups though... tossed
>> that out long ago...
>> oh oh oh and a vic 20... and hmm... doesn't work but got a zenith
>> heathkit 8080 in the back of the closet...
>> My Apple (as in no e no nothing.. was first apple made) bit the
>> dust. It exploded real nice when the sledge hammer hit it. *giggle*.
>> Are these old things worth anything? Maybe they'll be like old
>> civil war swords and uniforms in a hundred years... I may just go
>> stick that old vic 20
>> into the attic rafters for the fun of it. Then again, maybe not.
>> technology moves so fast... I can still use a sword from a 100
>> years ago.. but I doubt anyone will be able to plug a monitor on
>> that vic 20.
>>
>>
>> Kelly
>
>

Address 2 in MM5?



Dear Wil,

Which on the Pet or one after that? I have been around since around
Commodore Pet days with the Chiclets Keys.

Thank you,

Nerd Boy

1-573-292-1136
<A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyinc.com">http://www.nerdboyinc.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.doyoureallycare.com">http://www.doyoureallycare.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.nbicentral.com">http://www.nbicentral.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.crosstowntraffic.net">http://www.crosstowntraffic.net</A>
Your alternative source for Miva Merchant Modules

For Customer Service and Support:
<A HREF ="http://www.nbisupport.com">http://www.nbisupport.com</A>
or send email to: [email protected]

<A HREF ="http://www.nerdboyproductions.com">http://www.nerdboyproductions.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.asmallurl.com">http://www.asmallurl.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.nbiracing.com">http://www.nbiracing.com</A>
<A HREF ="http://www.yourlottosite.com">http://www.yourlottosite.com</A>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wil Hatfield" <[email protected]>
To: "Kelly XR" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?


>I still have a Commodore Business Machine I am waiting to submit to the
> Smithsonian. Mint condition..... gimme a price? Still boots too.
> Whenever
> I think my workstation is running slow and I am ready to take a hammer to
> it
> I just go out and plug that baby in and feel much better about my station.
>
>
> Wil Hatfield
> HyperConX Customer Care
>
> HyperConX International - <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com">http://www.hyperconx.com</A>
> 1.800.894.3613 - Toll Free in the US and Canada
>
> Check out the all new Miva Pages:
> <A HREF ="http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/">http://www.hyperconx.com/miva/</A>
>
> Premium e-commerce hosting, 24/7 technical support, toll free
> support lines for your convenience, great low cost packages to
> choose from, Authorize.Net Direct retailer, need high-speed
> connectivity well we have that too. Everything a business
> needs to succeed. Host with the Pros and sell like one too!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Kelly XR
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>
>
> hmm.. .actually dreamweaver kinda sucked until they bought out Allaire
> and it's homesite software..
> which of course required Windows... Hail Bill Gates!
> Gee I miss cpm.
>
> Kelly
>
> Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
>
>>True. And Dreamweaver wouldn't exist without Windows, so let's credit
>>Microsoft for that great HTML editor software!
>>
>>Piles of third party modules replaced by OUI! Just millions of em!
>>Developers going bankrupt! Dogs and cats living together!! Darren is the
>>devil!
>>
>>But Miva is a progressive, fantastic company for absorbing template
>>modules
>>and a hundred other third party module functionality! Long live hypocrisy!
>>
>>Anyway, that's all I'll say on the subject. I've wasted enough time on
>>this
>>argument and the small but vocal anti-Darren faction never budges... the
>>rest of us know where the ideas came from...
>>
>>To give this post a valid list purpose, I'll mention that the Add and Add+
>>feature in the cats and prods is the coolest, and totally original!
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected]
>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>Scot Ranney
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:14 PM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>>>
>>>You have got to be kidding. It's like politics where people
>>>talk about
>>>what they hear instead of what they know.
>>>
>>>Without all the hard work that the folks at Miva Corp did,
>>>Darren would
>>>never have been able to use the Miva Merchant source code to
>>>make OpenUI
>>>in the first place.
>>>
>>>Huh?
>>>
>>>OpenUI was originally just a copy of Miva Corp's source code.
>>>The only
>>>difference being hook points and variable name changes. Yeah, it was
>>>cool and helpful, but even back then Miva Corp had the foundation for
>>>the template customization system Merchant 5 advertises.
>>>Implementation
>>>of that system just took longer than I expected.
>>>
>>>I have to laugh when I see messages like "Miva Merchant 5 is taking
>>>Darren's ideas."
>>>
>>>Darren is no angel when it comes to taking other people's ideas. As
>>>time went on, he rendered a whole pile of popular modules useless by
>>>integrating their functionality into OpenUI (something he repeatedly
>>>said he would not do).
>>>
>>>There's a good chance that many of the "ideas" Merchant 5 is
>>>"absorbing"
>>>are originally from 3rd party modules that were absorbed into
>>>OpenUI in
>>>the first place.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's sad... let's have a moment of silence for Darren
>>>>
>>>>
>>>and all of his
>>>
>>>
>>>>hard work and ideas that got absorbed into Miva Merchant 5.
>>>>
>>>>On May 4, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Another great OpenUI feature integrated
>>>>>into MM5!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>------------
>>>
>>>"To The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States,
>>>Resist much, obey little;
>>>Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved;
>>>Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this earth,
>>>ever afterward resumes its liberty."
>>>
>>>~Walt Whitman
>>>
>>>

Address 2 in MM5?



Nerd Boy Help Desk wrote:
> Dear Wil,
>
> Which on the Pet or one after that? I have been around since around
> Commodore Pet days with the Chiclets Keys.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Nerd Boy

You old folks quit digging up the past and focus on the future. The
past is on the merchant-users list. This is the merchant5-users list.
:-)

--
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|

Address 2 in MM5?



Hmmm, here's what I used when I was a reporter working remote at
courthouses. I had a rubber cup I'd put over the phone to transmit the
data via sound.

<A HREF ="http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-laptop/index.html">http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-laptop/index.html</A>

I started on the Vic 20, then Commodore 64. In HS I learned on an Apple,
and in college, I wanted an Amstrad:

<A HREF ="http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/amstrad-pcw8256/index.html">http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/amstrad-pcw8256/index.html</A>

But wound up getting a Panasonic Word Processor that had a B/W screen
and let you save text to a diskette.

And, ohh, the Amiga -
<A HREF ="http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/amiga2500/index.html">http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/amiga2500/index.html</A>
I used it for nothing but to play Lemmings, the most addictive game I've
ever known (I've thrown out all my versions because if I turned it on,
I'd never work.

The first PC I could afford was an IBM 25Mhz that ran me nearly $2,000.
AOL had just launched and I was one of their first members. Still got my
old screen name which is just a name - no numbers or crazy strings. Oh,
how I wish I had took them up on throwing a few bucks toward stock back
then - a buddy of mine made millions in '97 - '98.

It was a huge deal when I finally got a 2400 baud modem, and an even
bigger one when I could afford a 96. Reporters make squat, so the 96 ran
more than 1/2 of a weekly paycheck.

Pamela
Real Solutions for Miva Merchant
The Official Guide to Miva Merchant
<A HREF ="http://www.designextend.com/DE">http://www.designextend.com/DE</A>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>
>
> I sold my Zenith Z-100 8080 computer back in 1983 for $2,000.
> I remember it having an 8080/8085 or something like that.
>
> <A HREF ="http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-100-origina">http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/zenith-100-origina</A>
> l/ (that's not
> me)
>
> I didn't like it as much as my TRS-80 which I used to create
> probably the world's first music video to Devo's "Q: Are We
> Not Men? A: We Are Devo!" Black and white, of course, but it
> moved exactly in time to the music, when I hit play on the
> tape recorder exactly when I clicked enter on the keyboard to
> start the "video." Ah, the late 70s and early 80s were
> wonderful times for geeks...
>
> <A HREF ="http://www.kjsl.com/trs80/">http://www.kjsl.com/trs80/</A>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > [email protected]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:21 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
> >
> > Kelly,
> >
> > You destroyed an original Apple? Did it have a wood case? A TI-4A,
> > a 150 baud modem, a zenith heathkit 8080 and a vic 20! Man, thats
> > old school! Before my time... :)
> >
> > On May 4, 2005, at 5:13 PM, Kelly XR wrote:
> >
> > > I can beat that! TI-4A.. AND *drum roll please* I have the
> > cassette
> > > recorder, a 150 baud modem, AND the voice box....it
> talks! I can't
> > > find a phone that will fit on the cups though... tossed
> > > that out long ago...
> > > oh oh oh and a vic 20... and hmm... doesn't work but got
> a zenith
> > > heathkit 8080 in the back of the closet...
> > > My Apple (as in no e no nothing.. was first apple made) bit the
> > > dust. It exploded real nice when the sledge hammer hit
> it. *giggle*.
> > > Are these old things worth anything? Maybe they'll be like old
> > > civil war swords and uniforms in a hundred years... I may
> just go
> > > stick that old vic 20
> > > into the attic rafters for the fun of it. Then again, maybe not.
> > > technology moves so fast... I can still use a sword from a 100
> > > years ago.. but I doubt anyone will be able to plug a monitor on
> > > that vic 20.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kelly
> >
> >
>
>

Address 2 in MM5?



On 5/4/05, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Kelly,
>=20
> You destroyed an original Apple? Did it have a wood case? A TI-4A,
> a 150 baud modem, a zenith heathkit 8080 and a vic 20! Man, thats
> old school! Before my time... :)

Was that modem accoustic? Ahh, the good old days :)
=20
> On May 4, 2005, at 5:13 PM, Kelly XR wrote:
>=20
> > I can beat that! TI-4A.. AND *drum roll please* I have the cassette
> > recorder, a 150 baud modem, AND the voice box....it talks!
> > I can't find a phone that will fit on the cups though... tossed
> > that out long ago...
> > oh oh oh and a vic 20... and hmm... doesn't work but got a zenith
> > heathkit 8080 in the back of the closet...
> > My Apple (as in no e no nothing.. was first apple made) bit the
> > dust. It exploded real nice when the sledge hammer hit it. *giggle*.
> > Are these old things worth anything? Maybe they'll be like old
> > civil war swords and uniforms in a hundred years... I may just go
> > stick that old vic 20
> > into the attic rafters for the fun of it. Then again, maybe not.
> > technology moves so fast... I can still use a sword from a 100
> > years ago.. but I doubt anyone will be able to plug a monitor on
> > that vic 20.
> >
> >
> > Kelly
>=20
>=20


--=20
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)

Address 2 in MM5?



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Kelly,

You destroyed an original Apple? Did it have a wood case? A TI-4A,
a 150 baud modem, a zenith heathkit 8080 and a vic 20! Man, thats
old school! Before my time... :)

On May 4, 2005, at 5:13 PM, Kelly XR wrote:

> I can beat that! TI-4A.. AND *drum roll please* I have the cassette
> recorder, a 150 baud modem, AND the voice box....it talks!
> I can't find a phone that will fit on the cups though... tossed
> that out long ago...
> oh oh oh and a vic 20... and hmm... doesn't work but got a zenith
> heathkit 8080 in the back of the closet...
> My Apple (as in no e no nothing.. was first apple made) bit the
> dust. It exploded real nice when the sledge hammer hit it. *giggle*.
> Are these old things worth anything? Maybe they'll be like old
> civil war swords and uniforms in a hundred years... I may just go
> stick that old vic 20
> into the attic rafters for the fun of it. Then again, maybe not.
> technology moves so fast... I can still use a sword from a 100
> years ago.. but I doubt anyone will be able to plug a monitor on
> that vic 20.
>
>
> Kelly


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I have a working Atari 2600 with all the games and an original
Macintosh I can throw in there as well. Common, remember Combat? Oh
and Pit Fall!

On May 4, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Wil Hatfield wrote:

> I still have a Commodore Business Machine I am waiting to submit to
> the
> Smithsonian. Mint condition..... gimme a price? Still boots too.
> Whenever
> I think my workstation is running slow and I am ready to take a
> hammer to it
> I just go out and plug that baby in and feel much better about my
> station.
>
>
> Wil Hatfield
> HyperConX Customer Care


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I still have a Commodore Business Machine I am waiting to submit to the
Smithsonian. Mint condition..... gimme a price? Still boots too. Whenever
I think my workstation is running slow and I am ready to take a hammer to it
I just go out and plug that baby in and feel much better about my station.


Wil Hatfield
HyperConX Customer Care

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Kelly XR
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?


hmm.. .actually dreamweaver kinda sucked until they bought out Allaire
and it's homesite software..
which of course required Windows... Hail Bill Gates!
Gee I miss cpm.

Kelly

Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:

>True. And Dreamweaver wouldn't exist without Windows, so let's credit
>Microsoft for that great HTML editor software!
>
>Piles of third party modules replaced by OUI! Just millions of em!
>Developers going bankrupt! Dogs and cats living together!! Darren is the
>devil!
>
>But Miva is a progressive, fantastic company for absorbing template modules
>and a hundred other third party module functionality! Long live hypocrisy!
>
>Anyway, that's all I'll say on the subject. I've wasted enough time on this
>argument and the small but vocal anti-Darren faction never budges... the
>rest of us know where the ideas came from...
>
>To give this post a valid list purpose, I'll mention that the Add and Add+
>feature in the cats and prods is the coolest, and totally original!
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>Scot Ranney
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:14 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [m5u] Address 2 in MM5?
>>
>>You have got to be kidding. It's like politics where people
>>talk about
>>what they hear instead of what they know.
>>
>>Without all the hard work that the folks at Miva Corp did,
>>Darren would
>>never have been able to use the Miva Merchant source code to
>>make OpenUI
>>in the first place.
>>
>>Huh?
>>
>>OpenUI was originally just a copy of Miva Corp's source code.
>>The only
>>difference being hook points and variable name changes. Yeah, it was
>>cool and helpful, but even back then Miva Corp had the foundation for
>>the template customization system Merchant 5 advertises.
>>Implementation
>>of that system just took longer than I expected.
>>
>>I have to laugh when I see messages like "Miva Merchant 5 is taking
>>Darren's ideas."
>>
>>Darren is no angel when it comes to taking other people's ideas. As
>>time went on, he rendered a whole pile of popular modules useless by
>>integrating their functionality into OpenUI (something he repeatedly
>>said he would not do).
>>
>>There's a good chance that many of the "ideas" Merchant 5 is
>>"absorbing"
>>are originally from 3rd party modules that were absorbed into
>>OpenUI in
>>the first place.
>>
>>
>>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That's sad... let's have a moment of silence for Darren
>>>
>>>
>>and all of his
>>
>>
>>>hard work and ideas that got absorbed into Miva Merchant 5.
>>>
>>>On May 4, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Another great OpenUI feature integrated
>>>>into MM5!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>------------
>>
>>"To The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States,
>>Resist much, obey little;
>>Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved;
>>Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this earth,
>>ever afterward resumes its liberty."
>>
>>~Walt Whitman
>>
>>